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inferno 08-05-2007 10:49 AM

some embarrising hands, what to do
 
I just finished my second NL session and while playing I was wondering about these hands if I played them right.

1)
SB: $99.00
BB: $60.95
UTG: $100.00
MP: $121.00
CO: $36.35
Button: $29.50

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($6.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4.

Turn: ($14.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $7</font>, BB calls $7.

River: ($28.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $28.50

2)
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

MP: $100.00
CO: $53.65
Button: $66.20
SB: $110.10
BB: $100.00
UTG: $123.60

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($6.00) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($14.00) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $22</font>, SB calls $14.

River: ($58.00) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $58.00

3)
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $141.00
MP: $124.40
CO: $35.45
Button: $113.10
SB: $192.80
BB: $144.40

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.50, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $3, Button calls $3, SB folds.

Flop: ($13.00) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $11</font>, CO folds, Button calls $11.

Turn: ($35.00) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $16</font>, Button calls $16.

River: ($67.00) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $67.00

4)
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $105.95
MP: $40.60
CO: $130.25
Button: $139.30
SB: $146.15
BB: $137.30

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $4, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">CO bets $7</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, CO calls $13.

Turn: ($49.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises to $106.25 (all in)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $109.50

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MrWookie 08-05-2007 01:23 PM

Re: some embarrising hands, what to do
 
Hand 1 looks like an obvious turn check.

Hand 2 could go a lot of ways. Reads?

Hand 3 also looks like an easy turn check.

Hand 4 uhh, I think I'm going to say it again: a turn check. I would reraise preflop, too

jstill 08-05-2007 01:28 PM

Re: some embarrising hands, what to do
 
some of these are tough... i duno about one, putting in a small bet to charge fds or weaker hands and to pick ur SD price doesnt seem bad, but sometimes i ck and either call or fold a non flush river and fold a flush river but betting may be better??

2 I dont like the turn raise, u could get some better hands with no redraw to fold but I dont think that has enough value to account for u getting called by worse hands... keep the pot small here I think

3 id usually ck fold the turn after button calls... I think the value in a bet is mostly tryin to fold out nits who wont call a second barrell but without a read I wouldnt try to ofld a better hand and half pot bet isnt gonna do it most likely anyways, fds just arent enough of his range to bet I dont think and sometimes even when they dont hit they win the pot in position on the river once u show weakness.

4 If i didnt 3bet pre id just float the flop, play for pot control.. ur hands really not that strong vs the range of hands thta will give u continued action (call this flop raise and calldown from there)... and I wouldnt want to try to ofld out better hands here. easy fold as played I think, not sure if we should ck behind hte turn or what??

KurtSF 08-05-2007 04:57 PM

Re: some embarrising hands, what to do
 
Hand 1 I check behind on the turn. I'm probably folding to a river bet (unles a J falls).

Hand 2 fold preflop. There's no reason to get involved in this pot in the first place.

Hand 3 you should have raised to $7 preflop. You can check and fold the turn.

Hand 4 you should 3-bet this preflop.

DeathDonkey 08-05-2007 05:41 PM

Re: some embarrising hands, what to do
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1 I check behind on the turn. I'm probably folding to a river bet (unles a J falls).

Hand 2 fold preflop. There's no reason to get involved in this pot in the first place.

Hand 3 you should have raised to $7 preflop. You can check and fold the turn.

Hand 4 you should 3-bet this preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree with all this - many of these hands look very "limit-like" putting too much money in on the turn and free showdown raising (not really a good play in either game most times).

-DeathDonkey

futuredoc85 08-05-2007 07:42 PM

Re: some embarrising hands, what to do
 
hand 1- i check the turn, call a river bet. whether to v-bet river depends on villain

hand2- i dont always call preflop, if i did i would play it the same vs some opponents and just call the turn against tighter opponents

hand3- check/call turn, check/fold river vs most people, unless hes extremely aggro or a huge station

hand4- 3-bet preflop, as played check turn and re-evaluate based on river card/action

Jamougha 08-06-2007 01:57 AM

Re: some embarrising hands, what to do
 
H1 - check the flop.
H2 - fold preflop, call or fold turn.
H3 - check/fold turn.
H4 - reraise preflop, check the turn.


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