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Mr_Donktastic 08-05-2007 12:50 AM

400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
Villain plays like a reg but I only have 200 hands on him...he is 18/9/6. Folds BB to steal 50%, raises cbets a decent amount.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $443.40
BB: $663.90
UTG: $489.50
UTG+1: $395.40
MP: $253.20
CO: $490.00
BTN: $413.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 Players)
5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, BB calls $8.00

Flop: ($24) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $40.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120.00</font>

Thoughts on flop line so far?

What do you do to a push?

What if he calls and turn blanks?

FF_Woodycooks 08-05-2007 01:31 AM

Re: 400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
fold BB to steal stats useless with 200 hands.

I like PF against any opponent.

I think flop lead is standard, his flop raise could easily be a wide range of hands. He may be trying to outplay another regular who is tryin to 'steal' his blind and outplay him. I think he can make this minraise with any pocket pair. Extremely unlikely he has 33 or TT, so I def continue with the hand altho being OOP here sucks. I just wrote a big explanation for just calling on the flop and seeing a turn cheap, then I realized my logic is faulty. I like your raise here, but maybe just to 100. It is going to be difficult to continue even if you pick up a Q or J since youre OOP. A spade on turn and I think you have to go broke, but that is only happening 25% of time. So basically just calling sets you up OOP in a decent sized pot with a very shaky holding. I raise flop, that will shut him down if he's posturing, if he raises I def pitch it.

GrandMelon 08-05-2007 01:33 AM

Re: 400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
TBH Id probably shove any two here cause your line looks exactly like a bluff. What other hands(besides this) would you play like this?

SABR42 08-05-2007 01:36 AM

Re: 400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
I think I like just calling his flop raise, because 3-bet here looks so much like a bluff.

If you get aggresive on the turn you can represent a big hand much more convincingly.

Mr_Donktastic 08-05-2007 01:39 AM

Re: 400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
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TBH Id probably shove any two here cause your line looks exactly like a bluff. What other hands(besides this) would you play like this?

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I play draws and big made hands very similarly...FAST.

FF_Woodycooks 08-05-2007 01:39 AM

Re: 400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
hm good point saber, assuming villian is really that 'meta'. He only has 200 hands on him, he could have been slapped in face with a ten or other holding he going to defend. I think u have to find that out on flop.

Mr_Donktastic 08-05-2007 01:49 AM

Re: 400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
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TBH Id probably shove any two here cause your line looks exactly like a bluff. What other hands(besides this) would you play like this?

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Also, villain can't think he has much FE unless he actually believes I have NOTHING. I mean I have 25% equity with my FD even vs a range of 33 and 9T+.

So what I'm saying is even if he suspects I am making a move playing back at me with ATC is pretty spewy.

soah 08-05-2007 01:49 AM

Re: 400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
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TBH Id probably shove any two here cause your line looks exactly like a bluff. What other hands(besides this) would you play like this?

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I play draws and big made hands very similarly...FAST.

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this is useless unless he knows it... his perception &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reality

often I just call here... if I want to take it away I can checkraise turn, or if he checks behind turn then I can bomb the river... makes it hard for him to win if he has air and it looks a lot more convincing. Or sometimes I might just give it up on the turn if I don't improve...

D.L.M. 08-05-2007 02:21 AM

Re: 400nl: Blind battle vs aggro player, flop FD on paired board.
 
take your odds bro.


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