stars 1/2 QTs
 

btn is ladyluck00 and bb is CKOTUHA - both decent tags though luck seems to spew once in a while.

btn opens OTB, i 3bet QTs, bb calls btn calls.

flop T97r

i bet, bb raises, btn 3bets, i cap.

turn is a 4

i bet, bb calls, btn raises, i call, bb calls.

river is a Q, what's the plan?

Re: stars 1/2 QTs
 

Bet/call

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Fold turn bet river imo.

Once you 4 bet the flop and then your turn bet gets called and raised, you're smoked. You have no draw. It's like a really dirty 4 outs or so on average I'd say. It sort of proves it since you still don't like your hand all that much on the river. Obviously it's very strong, but if you bet you're cry calling a raise.

Re: stars 1/2 QTs
 

I would think BB has exactly 88, and button's range is TT, 99, 77, T9, 97s, T7s, J8s, & 86s. So I would check-call this river.

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i dont think bb has 88.. he probably would've capped to iso preflop w/ that...

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Wow. Betting this river is super bad. Check call.

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"Once you 4 bet the flop and then your turn bet gets called and raised, you're smoked. You have no draw. It's like a really dirty 4 outs or so on average I'd say."

would you really fold this turn getting 16:1 at the table?

Re: stars 1/2 QTs
 

If I didn't and ended up paying off I'd likely quit shortly after because I was upset about the way I played this hand. Not to say I've never done it and won't do it again in similar situations, but I think it's really really bad here to look this guy up unimproved given the line you've taken thusfar. You're screaming overpair and this guy is still raising you. Idk, it's a forum. If I was feeling like I was playing really well I would fold this. You are right though I would be calling some percentage of the time.

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im surprised you consider ladyluck a decent tag.

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agreed, also this hand is really off...i mean how strong do u think tpwk no draw is?