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duh 08-02-2007 04:15 PM

Fold this QQ i guess? 1/2
 
villan and I are both 22/20. We have been batteling, and neither one of us gives the other any credit, especially preflop. I 4-bet with the intention of instacalling a shove.. But he flatted, WTF?????

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($83.50)
Hero ($200)
MP ($472.75)
Button ($201.35)
SB ($38)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $62</font>, MP calls $38.

Flop: ($127) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($127) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $88</font>, Hero ??

duh 08-02-2007 08:45 PM

Re: Fold this QQ i guess? 1/2
 
¢

jlocdog 08-02-2007 08:56 PM

Re: Fold this QQ i guess? 1/2
 
Why did you check the turn?

I have noticed that in alot of your posts you seem to 3bet preflop with either big PP's or big cards, miss the flop where a scare card comes out and are at a loss....all while holding a 100BB stack.

So, you either have to gamble more (betting the scare card as if it hit you) or 3bet less until you feel more comfortable playing postflop.

This is 1/2NL so playing 'by the book' usually books you a nice win. Don't get caught up in all the tricks and odd lines you see others posting at higher limits (and this includes to a smaller extent 2/4NL). It is a different game with different level thinkers.

jpsnow 08-02-2007 08:58 PM

Re: Fold this QQ i guess? 1/2
 
I doubt AK is a big part of his range. KK and AA also seem unlikely. That being said, you fold out most hands you beat on the flop and get a call from the rare AK and AA. I think TT and JJ are his two most likely holdings. I just think if he is semi-solid he has to shove AK pre here for the most equity (seeing all 5 cards).

MatthewRyan 08-02-2007 10:16 PM

Re: Fold this QQ i guess? 1/2
 
if u check flop and turn u are going to induce, thus ucall if u take that line


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