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Felix Felicis 08-02-2007 03:39 PM

Why is the gap concept a tournament theory?
 
Does it not take a better hand to call a raise than it does to open the pot in a cash game as well?

Perhaps it is especially true in tournaments, because of stack sizes and other stuff, but I don't understand why it is called a purely tournament theory.

P.S.
This is inspired by another discussion in this forum I just replied it where I said I would fold K9s in a cash game to a raise and it occured to me that I I would raise with it if folded to me in a lot of positions which made me think of the 'Gap Concept'.

BigBuffet 08-03-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Why is the gap concept a tournament theory?
 
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Does it not take a better hand to call a raise than it does to open the pot in a cash game as well?

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In a cash game you can buy more chips.

Mason Malmuth 08-03-2007 12:47 AM

Re: Why is the gap concept a tournament theory?
 
Hi Felix:

In tournaments, the gaps tend to be wider. Thus while it is important in all poker, it becomes even more important in tournaments.

Best wishes,
Mason

erocplayer 08-03-2007 02:16 AM

Re: Why is the gap concept a tournament theory?
 
IMO
deep stack cash games have better implied odds and it often makes more sense to draw with inferior hands.

in tournaments, rarely are you 100bb's deep where calling a raise w/ sub-par holdings can pull in a monster pot like is the case in a ring game.
tournament play often demands showdown value, also, rather than drawing power. maybe that is another reason that the gap theory tends to lean towards tournament poker.
-eroc

johnnyrocket 08-03-2007 11:27 AM

Re: Why is the gap concept a tournament theory?
 
ask gus hansen, he'll tell u the truth

PantsOnFire 08-03-2007 12:09 PM

Re: Why is the gap concept a tournament theory?
 
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Hi Felix:

In tournaments, the gaps tend to be wider. Thus while it is important in all poker, it becomes even more important in tournaments.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Is it also true that the gaps in tournament poker are constantly in flux and thus should be reassessed on a regular basis?

For example, as the blinds get higher, some players adjust their play while others do not. And at certain points in the tourney, some players clam up while others let loose.

And if you're available, I have another question. Say you are in LP and UTG is loose/aggr and MP is tight/solid. UTG raises and MP calls. Can you figure that MP made a more loose call because of his gap with UTG and thus now your gap is also now a little smaller? And is this a setup for a squeeze?

iveyleague24 08-03-2007 03:30 PM

Re: Why is the gap concept a tournament theory?
 
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Say you are in LP and UTG is loose/aggr and MP is tight/solid. UTG raises and MP calls. You can figure that it's pretty likely (but not guaranteed) that MP made a relatively loose call because of (his perception of UTG's range/table dynamics/possible metagame considerations/...etc/...etc). This is probably (but not always) a good opportunity for a squeeze.

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I feel like a contract drafter.

txraven 08-07-2007 06:56 PM

Re: Why is the gap concept a tournament theory?
 
The way alot of players call with some god awful crap, I highly suspect most have no clue about the gap concept.


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