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ajloeffl 08-01-2007 09:54 PM

need help with river play here
 
Heads up match, effective stacks $2850.
villain: Small Blind ($10)
HERO: Big Blind ($20)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to HERO: [Jh, 9h]
villain: Call ($10)
HERO: Raise ($85)
villain: Call ($65)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [8d, Qd, Tc]
HERO: Check ($0)
villain: Bet ($120)
HERO: Call ($120)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [8c]
HERO: Check ($0)
villain: Bet ($265)
HERO: Raise ($850)
villain: Call ($585)
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [Th]

First off, normally I'd bet out on this flop but this villain has been bluffing a ton in this heads up match. After checkraising the turn, I'd put villain on an 8 or possibly a Q. The river basically kills my hand which was the nuts on the flop. Do I just check/call a small bet here and fold if he pushes? That would seem rather weak. The pot was so big compared to stacks, I wasn't sure what to do.

AAismyfriend 08-01-2007 09:58 PM

Re: need help with river play here
 
If villain has been bluffing a ton, I don't get why you aren't just betting this flop. As played, I think I would c/c since he could very easily have a draw on the turn and all draws missed. I would be very surprised if he showed up here with a T, but an 8 is certainly possible I suppose.

Snygaard 08-01-2007 11:03 PM

Re: need help with river play here
 
I really really hate the flopcheck.

ajloeffl 08-01-2007 11:15 PM

Re: need help with river play here
 
Yah, after the fact, I decided the flop check was not the best line. I bet that flop 99% of the time, not sure why I didn't there.

rebuyboy 08-01-2007 11:45 PM

Re: need help with river play here
 
horrible flop play

Whisper 08-02-2007 03:46 AM

Re: need help with river play here
 
He probebly has a Q here, and a draw, its very unlikely he has an 8, unless its T8 or Q8 and decied to slowplay flop. As for the river, if its way under a psb just put it in and hope he calls with Q

VENGEANCE 08-02-2007 05:56 AM

Re: need help with river play here
 
checkfold, it seems really unlikely he'd call you with a draw on the turn with the paired board and the size of the call, unless you think he's planning on taking it away on the river... doubtful


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