my pet hate: being minbet into
 

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CO ($4.20)
Hero ($11.55)
SB ($20.90)
BB ($3.70)
UTG ($17.90)
MP ($12.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.45</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.35, UTG calls $0.35.

Flop: ($1.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.1</font>, UTG folds, Hero ???


this happens to me so often in the micros, so fking annoying

my standard line is to ignore and standard c/bet, but when u have nothing against a short stack is this just throwing away money. He could have top pair, draw who the fk knows, they call anyway, how do u continue

it only really happens against [censored] players at this level but im interested in other peoples views on how they combat this

Re: my pet hate: being minbet into
 

I make a standard c-bet/raise here.. if he calls and i have no reads i will try to see a cheap showdown so i can make a note. I find most of the time it's a draw.. but try and see a cheap showdown and take some notes. You will know how to play him next time around. Also pay attention to any pots he is in that you are not involved in.

Re: my pet hate: being minbet into
 

against a shortie I just fold here (I know lame) I just think they never fold, or agiant a normal stack id do normal c-bet or float them.

Re: my pet hate: being minbet into
 

actully edit that post I dont really think folding is that great unless vilian is super short giving you 15-1 on this call and the fact that you can improve your hand or take it away on the turn makes this a manaitory call/raise at least?

Re: my pet hate: being minbet into
 

Play it mostly like he just checked. Mathematically it's not far off the same.

Re: my pet hate: being minbet into
 

From my experience it is usually one of two things.

1) He is really bad and thinks he value betting because he is short and that is all you will call.

2) He is really bad and he thinks he can keep you from betting a higher amount, a joke of a blocker bet.

Re: my pet hate: being minbet into
 

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actully edit that post I dont really think folding is that great unless vilian is super short giving you 15-1 on this call and the fact that you can improve your hand or take it away on the turn makes this a manaitory call/raise at least?

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this is what im talking about

this is exactly what i think when it happens

Re: my pet hate: being minbet into
 

What would you have done if he'd checked?

Ed Miller wrote an interesting article that has helped me a lot with the minbetters.

www.notedpokerauthority.com/articles/checking-with-a-chip.html

He's actually not that short - 3BB - so I doubt he's playing the typical short stack strategy. Probably just doesn't know how much to bet, maybe hopes you've got the check/fold button on.

Re: my pet hate: being minbet into
 

I always raise in that situation. Also by raising, u probably get a turn free card, if he calls u on the flop. They use it sort of like a probe bet, but they dont get that they will be constantly raised.