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Kazimyrch 07-31-2007 07:12 PM

25 NL QQ preflop, playing for whole stack?
 
Villain is solid. A few orbits ago he made me lay down JJ by shoving. He showed KK. So he knew I could lay down a hand. Still QQ is strong. Thoughts?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $17.90
UTG+1: $6.70
Hero: $24.71
Button: $14.85
SB: $59.85
BB: $69

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $69</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ??

crushednuts 07-31-2007 07:12 PM

Re: 25 NL QQ preflop, playing for whole stack?
 
hero insta folds
there are so many better spots to get your money in IMO others may think i have monsters under the bed but I don't like to toss coins

murmeltier21 07-31-2007 07:14 PM

Re: 25 NL QQ preflop, playing for whole stack?
 
3bet AI?! wtf! i type "im goin broke" into the chat and call as fast as i can. don't give him credit for spewin around like that. why would he do that w/ KK or AA??

for 100BB i go broke here every time!

BishopsFinger 07-31-2007 07:14 PM

Re: 25 NL QQ preflop, playing for whole stack?
 
yeye folds

crushednuts 07-31-2007 07:15 PM

Re: 25 NL QQ preflop, playing for whole stack?
 
when you say he made you lay down JJ did he do the same shove like over a standard raise? How many hands have you seen him in? Does he do this often or the only other time he did it he showed KK?

Kazimyrch 07-31-2007 07:18 PM

Re: 25 NL QQ preflop, playing for whole stack?
 
When I lay down JJ he reraised allin too. I know it's dangerous to call, but if I fold this one, what about my image then? When will I get respect for my raises. Villain is solid and I haven't seen him calling with weak hands.

crushednuts 07-31-2007 07:34 PM

Re: 25 NL QQ preflop, playing for whole stack?
 
they don't know you laid down QQ. for all they know you folded AJo or something.. you never get that much respect for your raises but only regulars would start 3 betting you light and you shouldnt be sitting at tables with too many regulars having position on you.

As far as not folding QQ for 100 bb I see were your coming from but he only has 4 bb invested and this villain has been known to insta shove monsters PF. I don't know if he does this w/ TT etc. I like to find a better spot for my 96 bb..

murmeltier21 07-31-2007 07:40 PM

Re: 25 NL QQ preflop, playing for whole stack?
 
you are behind AA and KK and flippin with AK. you are a fav against AQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88 and i don't know what else would be in his range. if you were deep itd be a different story but 100BB deep I call this with QQ


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