QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

alright been sittin here for a little but this hand came up. villian is 22.6/7.9/2.12 over 75 hands.

this hand comes up and my question is can i possibly fold this on the river. the turn is a nasty card but i am unsure of how to play this river.

i dont think there is value in a raise but i would like to know what you guys think.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (7 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero???????

Final Pot: 18 BB

Re: QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

If you didn't call the river this is a candidate for "misplayed every street". =/ Generally you shouldn't open-limp from MP1 in an online 2/4 game, QJo is not an exception (it's a pretty junky hand to be playing OOP headsup). There is no reason not to raise the flop, but there is a strong case for calling the turn and letting SB pad the pot.

Re: QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

open limp with QJo kinda bad

slowplaying the nuts on super action/drawy board real bad

3 betting turn is spew against many villains.

folding river would be horrendous.

my 4 cents.

(edited for politeness)

Re: QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

call riv

Re: QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

Are we folding PF?

lol @ this being a river question

Re: QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

strictly, your posts make no sense

Re: QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

*grunch*

I'd raise this one. Since villain seems to be pretty aggressive I very much doubt he would've called the flop if he'd hit 2pair. I'm putting him on KTs, KJs or KQs.
Calling is close, though.

Re: QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

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*grunch*

I'm putting him on KTs, KJs or KQs.


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Forget about KTs [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Re: QJo Flop nut Straight Trouble on turn
 

Ok, my opinion... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

preflop - either fold or raise. But if you have to ask here how to play this hand, then it's an easy fold. Your post-flop edge is by no means large enough to justify playing such poor hands.

flop - Easy raise, it might even get 3 bet and capped. They will usually put you on a flush or straight draw if you raise, not a made straight, and two-pair will often 3 bet it, so you can cap. Get that money in when ahead.

turn - I don't think the 3 bet is as bad as many people make it out to be. That said, I would probably just call.

river - easy call. Hope he flips over K9, or something like KQ. Although that is very doubtful after his turn cap... maybe he has QJ too... but he raised from BB... anyway, you're getting 17:1 with an ace-high straight on a paired rainbow board...not too bad.

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call riv

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