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Wooden Ta Sheng 07-29-2007 01:45 AM

$5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
on the end has little to no value as a bluff catcher?

Read on villain: he is decent so far, but that's not really saying much, because he had a big stack when I got to the table and we haven't really tangled too much until this pot.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($3.66)
SB ($8.83)
Hero ($8.41)
UTG ($6.21)
MP ($20.52)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, Button calls $0.05, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.22) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($0.22) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.16</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.4</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.2</font>, MP calls $0.80.

River: ($2.62) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?

shoxbb6 07-29-2007 01:52 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
Lead flop, you need to build a pot.
3-bet turn a little more to 1.5.
I push this river and get looked up by any Q

EMc 07-29-2007 01:57 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
not checking the probable nuts

Wooden Ta Sheng 07-29-2007 01:57 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
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Lead flop, you need to build a pot.
3-bet turn a little more to 1.5.
I push this river and get looked up by any Q

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Overbet pushing on the end seems really bad, especially when you consider that any other Queen would have bet the flop behind me and most likely is 4-betting the turn.

pfapfap 07-29-2007 01:58 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
Hero bets $2, at least.

Wooden Ta Sheng 07-29-2007 02:00 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
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not checking the probable nuts

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But are you smooth calling a 3-bet on the turn with less than Q3 looking to call a value bet with the weakest hand?

shoxbb6 07-29-2007 02:02 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
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Overbet pushing on the end seems really bad, especially when you consider that any other Queen would have bet the flop behind me and most likely is 4-betting the turn.

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What do you think he's calling your turn 3-bet with? a 7? a mid pp? Queens can easily slowplay this flop(you did).

Wooden Ta Sheng 07-29-2007 02:02 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
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Hero bets $2, at least.

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How often do you think villian is calling a $2 bet with a hand that beats you in order for this to be a good bet?

vixticator 07-29-2007 02:07 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
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How often do you think villian is calling a $2 bet with a hand that beats you in order for this to be a good bet?

[/ QUOTE ] Exactly 97.54% of the time. Two hands beat you. Are you serious?

Wooden Ta Sheng 07-29-2007 02:12 AM

Re: $5NL 6-Max, What\'s your move when checking the probable nuts
 
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How often do you think villian is calling a $2 bet with a hand that beats you in order for this to be a good bet?

[/ QUOTE ] Exactly 97.54% of the time. Two hands beat you. Are you serious?

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Are you serious with this reply? If only two hands beat me, what makes you think 97.54% I'm getting a call?


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