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Mike MacIntosh 07-28-2007 12:07 PM

100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
Villain is running 26/22 over 220 hands, probably has me at 20/18 or something. This hand took place before the one in question.

Image: Villain probably sees me as a position orientated/thinking player who is more than capable of making moves.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($86.25)
Button ($100)
SB ($93.45)
Hero ($101)
UTG ($187.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $34</font>, Hero folds.


Hand in question:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($85.25)
UTG ($120)
MP ($92.95)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($99.50)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB ($186.90)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $10.

<font color="blue">He could be 3betting me with a whole range of hands. Lets see a flop in position. </font>

Flop: ($29) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ???

Do you bet the flop? How much?

What is your plan on the turn?

ikestoys 07-28-2007 12:54 PM

Re: 100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
freeeeeeeee card

futuredoc85 07-28-2007 01:04 PM

Re: 100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
decent spot to 4-bet pre, def. take the free card now.

Bramsterdam 07-28-2007 01:04 PM

Re: 100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
I usually take a stab at the pot and shut down if called. Our outs might not even be clean. The pre-flop raiser doesn't follow up indicating weakness, bet it.

Mike MacIntosh 07-28-2007 01:33 PM

Re: 100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
[ QUOTE ]
freeeeeeeee card

[/ QUOTE ]

Why? Let me take a stab:

We don't have much FE in this spot given reads, and checking behind will gain us more information on the turn + a free card.

pepper123 07-28-2007 01:37 PM

Re: 100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
also your ace might be an out here

i think he might check/call with a hand like TT on this board, knowing that you're likely to shove over a lead with a ton of draws

pepper123 07-28-2007 01:40 PM

Re: 100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
also if he thinks you're getting fed up with him he's going to be crai a lot of hands here knowing that you're likely to

a) be calling light pf and
b) going after him a little post flop

and if he's not crai then he'll probably check turn as well

Mike MacIntosh 07-28-2007 01:42 PM

Re: 100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
[ QUOTE ]
decent spot to 4-bet pre, def. take the free card now.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea its a decent spot for a 4bet. However I decided not to go crazy given the previous hand. Ultimately I decided to call because we are on the button.

I would be much more inclined to 4bet if we we OOP. Just curious how much would you 4bet to in these btn/blinds situations? I have experimented with both 4betting small and PSR. Would love to hear your thoughts.

King Car 07-28-2007 01:47 PM

Re: 100NL Facing probable light 3bet
 
I see the value of a free card, but I think I like leading here.

A fair amount of hero's button raising range hits that flop. In addition, what percentage of villain's made hands are checking that board, w/o the intention of a c/r?


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