K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flop
 

I'm fairly new to this table. no reads on particular players, but the table is generally scared of me since I have about double the next person's chips. I'm in the top 10. blinds at 500/1000/100 . folds to me on the button, I raise to 3k and the blinds call. I made this raise b/c I've realized I need to be more aggressive in tournaments.

Flop: [2h 8d Ad] (9.9k in the pot)

I c bet 5k. sb calls, bb folds.

turn, Qh and I ? .....

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flop
 

see i disagree . you built a stack. why raise on button w crap? ppl are going to play back at you pretty light. if you were a middle stack you NEED chips so the agression is necessary.its bad risk reward your risk is more than the value of those blinds and antes is my point. as played he's prob letting you bluff off your chips. i think you have to back off.

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flop
 

Surely it's relevant what SB's stack is?

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flo
 

buy-in, stacks, relationship to bubble?.. etc.

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flo
 

it's the $10 rebuy on stars. we're no where near the bubble. I've got 58k, sb 39k, bb 17.6k.

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flop
 

I bet 10k on the turn and he calls. river is 2c. board:

[2h 8d Ad Qh] [2c]. 40k in the pot. he's got 21k behind. I cover. and I...?

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flop
 

Unless he has a flush draw, there is nothing that you could bet that he won't call and to make the final bullet you have to be pretty sure he has a flush draw. You still have a decent stack, sometimes you just have to give up the bluff. With that much in the pot you are getting called all day, check behind.

On a side note I'm fine with button raising, sitting there not trying to steal blinds in position is what makes a large stack come down to a medium stack when the blinds increase (not to say you should raise every time it's folded to you on the button, you do have to vary your play). After the first bullet though I'd let it go. I'm all about firing multiple bullet bluffs, but the board texture has to be right and so is the player who you are doing it too. With that guys chip stack he's not calling you with air.

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flop
 

he checks and I "value bet" $5,000 as if I think he was on a flush draw and that he missed. like / dislike this bet?

he min raises me and I ? ....push? fold? call? re-raise other than push?

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flop
 

Is this question meant serious? Have you read the answers before? What do you think will happen, if you reraise / push?

Re: K4s table chip leader in LP, steal attempt defended PF and on flop
 

yes I read the earlier answers. but i'm going through the hand the way I played it, mistakes and all. so from the previous answers it looks like everybody thinks I should've checked the river and now that i've been min-check raised that I should fold. What I'm seriously wondering is if I should've pushed.

There was an ace on the flop. they called pre-flop, flop and turn. potentially, they're on a diamond draw. they have not raised. if they are on a draw they missed. the min raise is kind of weak. it could be weak faking strength. or it could be real weakness like they want to raise to hope I'll fold. remember, there was an ace on the flop. he doesn't know I have K4 or that I completely missed. also, the board is paired = potential full house. if he is on a flush draw, he has missed. so why shouldn't I have continued my aggression & moved all - in? if he had a busted flush draw, would he call that bet? he might not. if I call, I'm most certainly behind but the pot is so big I can't fold.