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KhalynYohrk 07-28-2007 07:41 AM

AK\'s flop bluffing
 
Hypothetical hand;

Stack sizes; 125 bb
Raise sb to 4x bb. w ak hearts, bb makes it 8 more, call
Flop(24BB): 10h js 6d SB leads out 16BB.

With no reads, facing 2/3 pot bet, muck it?
Say bb 3bets light, appropriate amount to try and get a 10 to lay down? 40-45BB?

Or is this a good spot for a float?

BombayBadboy 07-28-2007 07:42 AM

Re: AK\'s flop bluffing
 
Easy easy fold.

If he 3-bets light, AK is an easy 4-bet PF.

Sciolist 07-28-2007 07:51 AM

Re: AK\'s flop bluffing
 
Yeh, you are looking at this the wrong way. After that flop, it really doesn't matter what his range is, because you are behind it. I don't know how far out you have to make his range for you to be ahead, but it's going to be very wide, perhaps 20%?

I really don't think it's too bad to just call if he's three betting you light in position, but with a hand like AK I'd probably just push. As I like pushing. My opening range from the SB against this guy is going to be very tight, knowing he's going to three bet me often

KhalynYohrk 07-28-2007 08:04 AM

Re: AK\'s flop bluffing
 
What range do you expect to be called down when you shove here?

KhalynYohrk 07-28-2007 08:06 AM

Re: AK\'s flop bluffing
 
You think some players call this shove with oesd? jk qj?

Sciolist 07-28-2007 06:04 PM

Re: AK\'s flop bluffing
 
[ QUOTE ]
What range do you expect to be called down when you shove here?

[/ QUOTE ]With a 4 bet preflop? AA-KK, AK, AKs, QQ. I figure his three bet range is wide enough that I still have equity. I think that 125 bb deep I can still expect calls from AK and QQ.

KhalynYohrk 07-28-2007 10:07 PM

Re: AK\'s flop bluffing
 
I was thinking what hands call a shove on the flop, when the action is only three bet pre.


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