400 NL KcJc vs 2p2er
 

Villain is 2p2er running roughly at 23/18 over not so many hands on this comp. Not too many hands w/ him and our history has been pretty standard stuff.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($798.05)
Hero ($458.80)
BB ($214)
UTG ($400)
MP ($790.70)
CO ($800.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $12, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($32) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $86</font>, CO calls $62.

Turn: ($204) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $140</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $500</font>, Hero ????

Better way to play this hand (including flop)? Seems bad to bet/fold turn but his shoving range includes a lot of bad news w/ out much good news. Checking also seems pretty bad so was kinda lost.

Re: 400 NL KcJc vs 2p2er
 

This hand seems very bad. So...I j call flop and turn, but way played you have to fold. You're a 3-1 dog vs. QJ/TX and getting exactly 3-1 to call. But...you're like a bajillion to 1 dog vs. a boat and that is very likely (assuming he j called your c/r w/ 9T or a set). Tough one, but you gotta fold unless you REALLY like to gamble.

Re: 400 NL KcJc vs 2p2er
 

If you're going to take this line I like a bet of $190ish on the turn. As played...GAMBOOOOOL

Re: 400 NL KcJc vs 2p2er
 

I'd bet/shove or c/c the flop

Re: 400 NL KcJc vs 2p2er
 

id b3b flop or c/r c/r.

Re: 400 NL KcJc vs 2p2er
 

fold, easily

As for flop there's no 1 perfect answer since these are the types of hands u need to be changing how u play in order to remain deceptive.