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orange 07-24-2007 07:17 PM

67s combo draw
 
I usually don't cold call PF. but the SB was a huge drooler (like 38/8 over a large sample) and I hoped to get in a pot with him. Other guy was taggy like 16/15 or something like that over a small sample. Hero should be playing fairly loose trying to iso SB.

SB calls with all sorts of crap pf (K8o/56o/J3s/etc). His range is wide. Whats your flop play and why?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $287.85
BB: $127.45
UTG: $255.00
CO: $194.00
Hero (BTN): $222.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $8.00, SB calls $7.00, BB folds

Flop: ($26) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12.00</font>, UTG calls $12.00, <font color="red">Hero ...

Imrahil 07-24-2007 07:20 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
I think a raise folds out UTG but not too sure about SB. I'd just call. Although our outs are crappy so that would be a reason to raise.

shpanko 07-24-2007 07:21 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
UTG should have a draw or a weak made hand like 77/A6/99(?),

this makes me want to raise but the fact that SB is never folding an 8 is somewhat troubling. Still SB will be donking with his k7/spades/64 a lot of the time so I think a pot sized raise is in order here. Let's get the UTG tag out of the picture and be in good shape vs SB's range

Mike MacIntosh 07-24-2007 07:36 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
[ QUOTE ]
UTG should have a draw or a weak made hand like 77/A6/99(?),

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100% agreed. UTG should never be cold calling SB's lead w/ 2pair/set/OP due to the texture of this board.

Lets raise to isolate the donkey. Guess we need to make it a large raise (Pot sized) because SB will be calling most of the time and giving the UTG player exponentialy better odds.

BTW, calling the UTG raise with your read is fine.

Check_The_Nuts 07-24-2007 07:39 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
raise, squeeze play? reps big strength I think+good value.

Hosehound25 07-24-2007 07:42 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
Our outs are crappy like someone above said, so I think we get a lot more value by raising here. If SB calls and turn blanks we can always check through assuming SB checks to us after calling the raise on the flop.

Jay Riall 07-24-2007 08:44 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
Raise and get allin prett obviously. We can't extract [censored] when we hit and we can fold out better hands a fair bit of the time with a flop raise.

Jay Riall 07-24-2007 08:46 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
And preflop is fine. I call with position without the drooler behind us sometimes fwiw.

Hince 07-24-2007 10:13 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
I think pf is fine.

We are only slightly behind K8 or an overpair, and it is possible SB is on a FD or something. There is enough money behind to justify raising/calling a shove. To add to that, a better flush draw may fold, and UTG may drop something like 99+ to a lot of flop action.

carrotsnake 07-24-2007 10:19 PM

Re: 67s combo draw
 
you really don't usually call with this preflop ? Interesting [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]


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