JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 (t12830)
CO (t4630)
Button (t8990)
SB (t5255)
BB (t10187)
UTG (t8845)
Hero (t10655)
MP1 (t2936)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t600</font>, Hero calls t600, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t600, SB calls t500, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t3000) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t3000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

Re: JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

fold &gt; call &gt; shove.

call is &gt; fold if you think that you can induce action behind you for your 9.5 outer

Re: JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

i hate calling, its either shove or fold for me, with it being really close, but i prolly shut my eyes and rip it in there. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

i prob fold only cause there's 3 left to act, but if there was 1 to act or you were closing the action you gotta get it in and i don't think it's close.

Re: JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

fold he prob has QQ anyway plus there's a billion ppl behind you

Re: JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

WTF? Shove! We have ten outs!

Re: JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

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WTF? Shove! We have ten outs!

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well, at least 6, anyway.

Re: JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

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WTF? Shove! We have ten outs!

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And he has an overpair, which may be two of these outs, and he's not folding.

Edit: anyway, I still probably don't fold. But I don't see why when OR isn't ever folding here why we need/want to shove. We're going to need to improve to win and it's not like we're going to fold out FDs in a pot this big by pushing.

Re: JJ on T98, 2-flush board, $50 single rebuy
 

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WTF? Shove! We have ten outs!

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Nath,
Please provide a weighted range for UTG. Also pls estimate our fold equity on a shove.