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Mike MacIntosh 07-23-2007 05:44 PM

100NL Set line check-up...
 
2nd orbit, no reads.

Do you play the flop differently?

What is your turn line? 83 behind in a 61.50 pot on a drawy board OOP.

Please consider:

1.) Giving a free card is disasterous.
2.) CRAI will get called by a looser range than a shove.

Obviously on a dry board this becomes an easy crai.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($72.10)
BB ($100)
UTG ($120.95)
MP ($100)
Hero ($108.20)
Button ($335.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $5</font>, Hero calls $5, Button calls $5, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($21.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls $20, UTG folds, MP folds.

Turn: ($61.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $83.2 (All-In)</font>

Nick Royale 07-23-2007 05:46 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
I just make a normal vb on the turn and push any river.

mertzo 07-23-2007 05:47 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
I bet this aswell. Probably 50+call a push but shoving sometimes is fine too

Mike MacIntosh 07-23-2007 05:52 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
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I just make a normal vb on the turn and push any river.

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I really think betting 40-50 looks very fishy here with 80 behind. Which is why I really didn't consider it while plaything the hand. However I agree that this is another way to play it.

DonovanMD 07-23-2007 06:06 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
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I just make a normal vb on the turn and push any river.

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I like this better than the shove value wise.

matt85 07-23-2007 06:17 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
I probably play it like this on this board.

Mike MacIntosh 07-23-2007 07:00 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
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I just make a normal vb on the turn and push any river.

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I like this better than the shove value wise.

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The consensus is to bet 40-50ish on the turn. Am I the only one that thinks vb for more than 1/2 our remaining chips is very suspicious, and narrows our hand range significantly?

1gotth3nuts 07-23-2007 07:18 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
obviously we have to bet.... eh i think it doesnt really matter too much whether we bet 50 or shove, both are equally good IMO

Orsman 07-23-2007 07:46 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
I think that a shove is a to strong move. Villain will not call this w/ a draw, probably only w/ some kind of king. A 45ish bet is better to make him pay with any draw

golfinguy5 07-23-2007 08:41 PM

Re: 100NL Set line check-up...
 
I think either is really fine. Like you said, betting more than half of your stack and be very suspicious but a push a lot of times will scare people off. I'd play it both ways.


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