NL600 AJ meets dangerous board
 

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $652.50
BB: $120.00
Hero (UTG): $600.00
BTN: $600.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BTN calls $24.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($57) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $42.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $123.00</font>, Hero calls $81.00

Turn: ($303) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $211.00</font> Hero folds

Obv didn't like the result here, but could I have done anything about it? Cant shove the flop can i?

Re: NL600 AJ meets dangerous board
 

why wouldn't you shove flop????

i would shove flop...

Re: NL600 AJ meets dangerous board
 

read on villain? seems well played w/o specific reads as I cannot see raraising the flop being good unless he is a maniac.

Re: NL600 AJ meets dangerous board
 

sorry villian standard tag - seemed good so far. he wont be calling with a gutshot put it that way.

Re: NL600 AJ meets dangerous board
 

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why wouldn't you shove flop????

i would shove flop...

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I like a fold more than a shove on the flop. I think I like a call best too. I dont see villain ever calling with QJ, and I think villian shows up with the best hand alot.

Re: NL600 AJ meets dangerous board
 

Get it in on the flop. He can call with lots of combohands that you are a favorite over. His range is very heavy on those hands and light on hands that beat you, but you hate half the deck, so calling feels meh. There is basically one hand that beats you, or do you think he plays AQ like this preflop a lot?

Re: NL600 AJ meets dangerous board
 

against a lot of guys who think they're good i like your line, and i would also call turn.

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why wouldn't you shove flop????

i would shove flop...

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I like a fold more than a shove on the flop. I think I like a call best too. I dont see villain ever calling with QJ, and I think villian shows up with the best hand alot.

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I can only seen KTs beating us and occasional AQ. He has things like KQcc/Kxcc/QTcc/Qxcc/T9cc a lot though, and he is calling with a lot of them. And we don't mind if he folds. Calling just feels very meh, since the turn will be very hard to play (or basically we will have to give up) on about a million cards.

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why wouldn't you shove flop????

i would shove flop...

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I like a fold more than a shove on the flop. I think I like a call best too. I dont see villain ever calling with QJ, and I think villian shows up with the best hand alot.

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what site do you play on and your sN?

are you leveling me?

Re: NL600 AJ meets dangerous board
 

if villian is standard tag than i cant see any hands he would raise this flop with that arent either ahead of you or have a good chance to outdraw..ran possible range for villians hand on pokerstove..
Board: Ac Jc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.492% 28.78% 00.71% 10258 253.00 { AdJd }
Hand 1: 70.508% 69.80% 00.71% 24876 253.00 { AA, QQ-JJ, AQs+, KcQc, KTs, AQo+


Board: Ac Jc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.045% 37.33% 00.71% 15522 297.00 { AdJd }
Hand 1: 61.955% 61.24% 00.71% 25464 297.00 { AA, QQ-JJ, AQs+, KcQc, KTs, QJs, AQo+, KTo, QJo

in both cases ur well behind a reasonable range for a standard tag, even in hand 2 throwing in QJs &amp; QJo into his range it still doesnt look good, still dont mind calling flop, turn fold is pretty easy i think.