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revlis87 07-21-2007 07:06 PM

all in... or call?
 
HU against pokerkid585 who i think is donkish - i might be wrong he has just made a couple really bad plays but whatever... Default is obv to raise the flop but I feel like he MIGHT fire turn with air here thinking im floating... but what about on river? Do we like a call (safe play) or raise (hope he has AK or KQ) but risk getting snapped by a 7 or hearts...

Full Tilt Poker Game #3017380535: Table Pupa (heads up) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:44:46 ET - 2007/07/21
Seat 1: Hero ($2,438.50)
Seat 2: pokerkid585 ($1,640)
Hero posts the small blind of $10
pokerkid585 posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ad As]
pokerkid585: dude i was on the phoneeee
Hero raises to $60
pokerkid585 raises to $180
Hero calls $120
*** FLOP *** [Qc 7s 2h]
pokerkid585 bets $205
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero calls $205
*** TURN *** [Qc 7s 2h] [7h]
pokerkid585 checks
Hero checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 7s 2h 7h] [Kh]
pokerkid585 bets $550

spino1i 07-21-2007 07:10 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
You need to insert a raise somewhere, and at the least, bet the freaking turn when he checks to you. Checking on the turn is so god awful it isnt even close.

I know you think your line is sneaky and confuses the f*** out of him, until you realize that all he has to do is check the river and it gives him great possiblities when you bet. He can check/raise bluff or value bet you, or just call with a weaker hand and you lose a ton of value you could have gotten by betting/raising on earlier streets.

fees 07-21-2007 07:10 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
How often do you think hes folding AK here?

revlis87 07-21-2007 07:11 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
ok, but as played what about the river?

07-21-2007 07:12 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
that turn check makes me vomit

spino1i 07-21-2007 07:14 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
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ok, but as played what about the river?

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Considering how screwed up you played it, and how under-repped you are, I'd probably shove. But its not a move thats going to net much more value than calling and you will lose money when he instacalls with a 7 or backdoor flush.

imabigdeal 07-21-2007 07:16 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
considering you have no idea where you're at because you never raised once i would probably just call

GreatKerblini 07-21-2007 07:17 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
As played, I think its a call since you have no clue where he is at and you dont have the ace of hearts. Actually, with that said though, he has no idea where u are at either and will probably call you down with any K here. I say push.

spino1i 07-21-2007 07:17 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
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considering you have no idea where you're at because you never raised once i would probably just call

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I think its pretty clear that in this situation hero is ahead like 80% of the time here.

Kala1928 07-21-2007 07:23 PM

Re: all in... or call?
 
Its like a minraise back to him, raise all day?


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