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Orsman 07-21-2007 01:53 PM

Ohh no, he just checkraised me allin...
 
Villain is a total unknown.

I probably should have raised him on the flop but i figured I could get some value out of hands like Qx and lower pairs on later streets. When he checked on the turn I figured some kind of draw of a weak queen so I went ahead and put in a nice bet to punish him for chasing draws. He let his hole timebank run out before he check-raise allin. I have been playing/running bad lately and didn't want to spew of more chips and I folded.

How bad is my line here? any thoughts what I should do?

Is anyone calling this against an unknown?

200 NL 1/2, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($377.65)
SB <font color="#C00000">SB ($207.20)</font>
BB ($200)
UTG ($232.40)
UTG+1 <font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($11.25)</font>
CO Hero ($200)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
1 fold, UTG+1 moves all-in for 11.25, Hero calls 11.25, 1 fold, SB calls 10.25, 1 fold.

Flop (35.75) Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets 20, Hero calls 20.

Turn (75.75) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero bets 50, SB moves all-in for 175.95, 1 fold.

River (301.70) A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

tarheeljks 07-21-2007 01:55 PM

Re: Ohh no, he just checkraised me allin...
 
reraise pf. if he timed down and pushed i'd probably fold, but i don't think a call would be too terrible.

OHFreak 07-21-2007 02:10 PM

Re: Ohh no, he just checkraised me allin...
 
Villain using stackadonk line here. His PF call could easily be 88 or 33. This line isn't all that consistent with a heart draw. The almost-timing-out-then-shoving has proved be a consistent tell of strength in my experience. UTG+1 is allin so SB will have to showdown one way or the other.

El Foldo.

Orsman 07-21-2007 04:06 PM

Re: Ohh no, he just checkraised me allin...
 
Brag: Thought I made a good laydown

Beat: he showed 89s

luckybacon 07-21-2007 04:07 PM

Re: Ohh no, he just checkraised me allin...
 
i like this fold a majority of the time. Dont be too results oriented

FooSH 07-21-2007 05:18 PM

Re: Ohh no, he just checkraised me allin...
 
Definatly raise preflop to isolate. Protected, multiway pots suck as people hardly ever bluff and its tough getting value (they assume you're not going to bluff either).

Id raise the flop as well, he could be blocking with hearts or value betting a weaker queen.

As played i'd fold the turn as well.

Villian is either retarded or a genius, can't work out which.


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