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l0gician 07-20-2007 10:53 PM

QQ fold river?
 
First hand post ... I have no reads at all, this is about the third or so hand I have played. I am wondering if I am supposed to fold river or not?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds.

River: (13 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 15 BB

I figured the flush hit and/or the king. I guess its probably an obvious fold?

knockonwood 07-20-2007 11:05 PM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
Yeah...I would fold this.

cold_cash 07-20-2007 11:06 PM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
call

Todd 07-20-2007 11:22 PM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
Bet/3-bet flop.

River, i might fold cuz of the overcall.

JamesBJames 07-20-2007 11:29 PM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
I'd call. We're probably good here more than 1 out of 15 times, right?

cold_cash 07-20-2007 11:35 PM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
We have the cutoff beaten here like 95% of the time.

l0gician 07-21-2007 12:19 AM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bet/3-bet flop.

River, i might fold cuz of the overcall.

[/ QUOTE ]

What I thought I was doing was waiting for someone in later position to bet and I would then raise to supposedly make it unprofitable for the flush (and other) draws.

TarHeel100 07-21-2007 12:19 AM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
Don't check the flop. Lead the flop. You don't want to risk a board this coordinated getting checked through. If someone on your immediate left raises, then great, it just gives the field unprofitable odds to chase a gutshot.

You are probably beaten, but no way am I folding the river getting 13:1 odds. It's ok to payoff in big pots.

CrMenace 07-21-2007 12:43 AM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
Anybody else want to lead the river? It seems like b/f would be an easier decision than as shown.

marchron 07-21-2007 01:59 AM

Re: QQ fold river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Anybody else want to lead the river? It seems like b/f would be an easier decision than as shown.

[/ QUOTE ]
Nah. The K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is in the Top 5 of Cards We Don't Want To See. Even though checking announces we're giving up, we're assed here almost all of the time, anyway.


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