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bills427 07-19-2007 11:37 PM

NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
before you read this look at SB starting stack size, also i minraised, bc SB was a lagtard and i was trying to get him to play back at me for his stack PF


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $84.90
BB: $424.70
UTG: $89.00
UTG+1: $395.30
Hero (MP1): $186.60
MP2: $105.00
CO: $341.30
BTN: $417.50

Reads: <font color="blue">was this push on the turn bad, should I have waited till the river to try and get it in?

numbers on villain are 19/13/3.5</font>

MP2 posts $4.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $8.00, BTN folds, SB calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($32) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $14.00</font>, SB calls $14.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $39.00</font>, CO folds, SB calls $25.00

Turn: ($124) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $139.60</font>, SB folds
Uncalled bet of $139.60 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $124.00 ($3 Rake)

mce86 07-19-2007 11:48 PM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
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before you read this look at SB starting stack size, also i minraised, bc SB was a lagtard and i was trying to get him to play back at me for his stack PF


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $84.90
BB: $424.70
UTG: $89.00
UTG+1: $395.30
Hero (MP1): $186.60
MP2: $105.00
CO: $341.30
BTN: $417.50

Reads: <font color="blue">was this push on the turn bad, should I have waited till the river to try and get it in?

numbers on villain are 19/13/3.5</font>

MP2 posts $4.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $8.00, BTN folds, SB calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($32) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $14.00</font>, SB calls $14.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $39.00</font>, CO folds, SB calls $25.00

Turn: ($124) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $139.60</font>, SB folds
Uncalled bet of $139.60 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $124.00 ($3 Rake)

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Its horrible. Obv, you believe you are way ahead, even on the flop? What hand do you put him on that you think he will call your big turn bet? The ace and two tens on the flop destroy any hand that would be in there, besides the ones that crush your AK...check behind on the turn if you want his money in...dont blow him out.

rdrr 07-20-2007 12:47 AM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
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Its horrible. Obv, you believe you are way ahead, even on the flop? What hand do you put him on that you think he will call your big turn bet? The ace and two tens on the flop destroy any hand that would be in there, besides the ones that crush your AK...check behind on the turn if you want his money in...dont blow him out.

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I think you missed the stacksizes; Villain has 37.90 left [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BlueBear 07-20-2007 01:21 AM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
I just don't get the flop play, pretty much an automatic fold and I see absolutely no reason to get fancy here.

bills427 07-20-2007 03:43 AM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
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I just don't get the flop play, pretty much an automatic fold and I see absolutely no reason to get fancy here.

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well, it's pretty simple...i thought i had the best hand at the time. and if not, someone might have had a 9 and i thought i could still take it down, p.s. SB was Chris Furgeson (sp)

mce86 07-20-2007 12:53 PM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
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I just don't get the flop play, pretty much an automatic fold and I see absolutely no reason to get fancy here.

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well, it's pretty simple...i thought i had the best hand at the time. and if not, someone might have had a 9 and i thought i could still take it down, p.s. SB was Chris Furgeson (sp)

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If you think you were up agains a nine, they would automatic check-fold to your aggression when the ace hit. If you check behind, they are really drawing dead to two nines that they cant bet becuase of the paired board.

Renton 07-20-2007 01:40 PM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
god

effang 07-20-2007 02:09 PM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
i like the turn a lot actually. you're folding out a ton of better hands because your hand smells like kk+ (min raise UTG etc.)

good line, but why shove the turn??? the turn shove makes your hand into a bluff.

SABR42 07-20-2007 02:24 PM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
This whole hand is LOL.

Mr_Donktastic 07-20-2007 02:26 PM

Re: NL400 push turn, or wait for villain to push river?
 
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This whole hand is LOL.

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