KK against tag
 

Villain is a tag, LDO.

My pleasure is gone because of the way I played this hand. I was totally lost and I don't know if my thinking is good or not.

Anyways, should I 3 bet the flop looking to get all in here? Does that even make sense? Villain will fold out AQ, KQ, or air that we beat, but will play back with sets, made flushes, combo draws etc. Since we have the Kc, do we make more money by letting him keep betting? Someone please correct my thinking here.

As played on the river, am I EVER good? I'm getting 3:1 but would villain 3 barrel onto a flop like this without something stronger than KK?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $62.10
BB: $64.45
UTG: $39.30
MP: $43.45
CO: $30.95
Hero (BTN): $50.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $9.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00

Turn: ($22) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $16.00</font>, Hero calls $16.00

River: ($54) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $24.00</font>, Hero ??

Re: KK against tag
 

i'm folding this turn...

you're standard taggy 50nler is almost never double barrelling this board with air. Once you call the turn you know you're facing another bet of 25, so calling the turn and folding the river is not really an option....

Re: KK against tag
 

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i'm folding this turn...

you're standard taggy 50nler is almost never double barrelling this board with air. Once you call the turn you know you're facing another bet of 25, so calling the turn and folding the river is not really an option....

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yea but AcQx is def in his range , im never folding this turn , ill probably either try to get it all in on the flop tho ...

Re: KK against tag
 

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i'm folding this turn...

you're standard taggy 50nler is almost never double barrelling this board with air. Once you call the turn you know you're facing another bet of 25, so calling the turn and folding the river is not really an option....

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yea but AcQx is def in his range , im never folding this turn , ill probably either try to get it all in on the flop tho ...

[/ QUOTE ]AQo should not be in his range which is why stats are better than calling somebody a TAG.

Re: KK against tag
 

aaaaawwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrr iiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn on the flop

Re: KK against tag
 

i just wanted to say that....i didn't even look at the hand sorry

Re: KK against tag
 

He's only calling profitably with 2 pair, a set or a flopped flush which are all far less likely than a draw or a Q IMO and even than you still have outs. You're flipping against AcQ with the pot as overlay. I push the flop.

Re: KK against tag
 

Push the flop. You're ahead of a lot, and have a lot of outs against everything except the nuts.

Re: KK against tag
 

PUSH THE FLOP UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU NIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: KK against tag
 

Villain is 19/17/2.4, with flop AF of 5, turn AF of 1.25, river AF of 1.5 over 220 hands.

I don't get why we should be pushing against a non donk. What hands will a non donk call; more specifically, what hands that we beat will call?