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yellowbluebus 07-18-2007 11:05 PM

NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $19.25
BB: $41.30
Hero (UTG): $33.00
BTN: $7.70

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain seems decent. He 3-bet a LAG PF 2 times in a row prior to me getting involved. Is this standard?</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $4.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $7.60 ($0.25 Rake)

Thuey11 07-18-2007 11:10 PM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
tough spot, i call and lead turn for 7 or 8 and fold to a shove.

Thuey11 07-18-2007 11:13 PM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
villain could be doing this with a flush draw a lot of the time

ajml 07-18-2007 11:14 PM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
I would choose to not get involved in a big pot where I am probably way behind and just fold. Why would be do this with a flush draw OOP...

Perk76 07-18-2007 11:17 PM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
I call and decide what I am gonna due on the turn, since he is the BB and will be leading into you again, or checking to you.

With no reads or if your image isnt established, a fold is not a bad option.

filsteal 07-18-2007 11:21 PM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
I think the fold here is incredibly standard. It's a reverse implied odds nightmare scenario. If you're ahead, you often won't win any more, and sometimes you'll still get bluffed out later. If you're behind, you'll probably have to pay a lot more to get to showdown.

I don't see how anything but folding could be the right play.

Thuey11 07-18-2007 11:22 PM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
woops, didnt see that u had position, in this case i probably call and decide on turn or just fold.

yellowbluebus 07-19-2007 12:06 AM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
I guess calling here with Ks is OK?

bored 07-19-2007 12:08 AM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
I think and fold unless villain has been getting out of line lately; then I just call.

Knuckles 07-19-2007 12:53 AM

Re: NL25 - KK c/r on A high flop
 
Unless I know that he is extremely aggressive post flop I am letting this go. As said earlier this seems like a reverse implied odds situation. Also even if he isn't on a flush draw it would be difficult to call another bet if a spade falls.


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