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Trikkur 07-18-2007 02:52 AM

Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $189.00
BB: $182.30
UTG: $100.00
Hero (MP): $110.90
CO: $54.90
BTN: $133.15

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 22/12/4 over 760 hands. I'm playing 19/12 at the table, but have 3bet him earlier. Can I call the shove?</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls $10.00

Flop: ($29.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $19.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $86.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $67.00 returned to UTG

Pot Size: $67.50 ($3 Rake)

Bukem_ 07-18-2007 02:54 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
preflop is big spew.

I'm really not sure why you would do anything besides instamuck vs utg here.

Casper05 07-18-2007 02:56 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
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preflop is big spew.

I'm really not sure why you would do anything besides instamuck vs utg here.

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Dire 07-18-2007 03:01 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
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preflop is big spew.

I'm really not sure why you would do anything besides instamuck vs utg here.

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Some sort of level? I think folding is clearly the worst option preflop. Reraising or calling depends on reads (UTG positionally aware?), chance of getting squeezed, etc.. If you think his range is so tight you can't play your hand for value then it's an obvious call for set odds alone since that range is going to pay off. Otherwise, you obviously just play your hand for its value.

Milwaukee2 07-18-2007 03:05 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
I'd normally just call preflop. Either way you have to fold the flop.

notfreemoney 07-18-2007 03:09 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
getting squeezed at nl100 does not happen enough for this pf play to be correct... call preflop and if someone squeezes then good for them. as played this is an instafold.

NoahSD 07-18-2007 03:11 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
Yeah. Call's better against most preflop. Check back flop and fold as played.

Casper05 07-18-2007 03:23 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
3-betting this hand OOP vs an UTG raiser is terrible

Edit: ok maybe not terrible, but not near optimal imo

NoahSD 07-18-2007 03:27 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
We're in position casper.

FoldEqu1ty 07-18-2007 04:03 AM

Re: Tough spot in 3-bet pot. Should I call a shove w/ 99. 100NL FTP
 
Preflop is sooooo gross versus anyone with a 12pfr. They're more than likely raising &lt; 5% of hands from UTG. If the players behind me were solid, I'd fold this all day long no regrets. As it stands call, if three way play for set value. If HU with some reads you can start floating or even playing for a cheap showdown on the right flops, but it's not necessary.


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