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recallme 07-17-2007 08:02 PM

Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $940
UTG+1: $3224.50
CO: $1231
Hero: $1511
SB: $1015
BB: $1272

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $110</font>, SB calls, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($340, 3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $220</font>, SB calls, CO folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($780, 2 players)
SB checks.

Results:
Final pot: $780

Villain is 29/20 2+2er.
What`Smy turn play? I think if i check i have to call river , so why don`t push myself?


2. I think this one is easier and Vill unknown

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1126
UTG+1: $1062.15
CO: $1050
Hero: $1236.25
SB: $180
BB: $605

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $35</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($105, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $145</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($540, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $540)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>.

recallme 07-17-2007 08:11 PM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
Plz help me with those

jpsnow 07-17-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
#1 what is he basically cold calling w/ preflop that he is also calling a flop bet with? JJ seems extremely likely to me. Cant really think of much else. I think praying for a free showdown here. I prob fold to any decent river bet as well.

#2 I think his range here is much wider than in #1. Maybe AcXx, sets, possibly KcQx, ect. I think i just call here though since your not too scared of the club and it may actually help you. Edit: He could also have some straight draws like 56 if he is somewhat donkish. I think this is somewhat read dependent. Do you think he will bluff a non club river

FooSH 07-18-2007 06:15 AM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
1) c/f any decent bet, no way are they cold calling AJ from the SB. Mid PPs are the most likely range, but they have either setted or will be just as eager to get to a cheap showdown.

2) As he has less than a PSB left, I don't think we can fold any river so I'm sticking it in here, at least we can get value from draws. He's never bluffing the river as there's a player all in.

HOWMANY 07-18-2007 06:26 AM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
You should have bet $70 on the flop in the second hand.

catcher193 07-18-2007 06:45 AM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
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You should have bet $70 on the flop in the second hand.

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yeah I'm pretty sure the extra 5$ is glaring spew IMO,

nh's I'd find the middle in both I think.

paulnic 07-18-2007 06:49 AM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
i shove this turn yes.

FooSH 07-18-2007 07:05 AM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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You should have bet $70 on the flop in the second hand.

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yeah I'm pretty sure the extra 5$ is glaring spew IMO,

nh's I'd find the middle in both I think.

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What are you putting villian on in hand 1? I can't think of anything he would bluff in this spot.

catcher193 07-18-2007 07:08 AM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
whoops [censored] me didnt see the coldcall, its actually tilted the "keep small as small as possible" route a decent amount.

recallme 07-18-2007 04:43 PM

Re: Am i pushing my Q´s now?
 
c/f first and shove 2nd is accepted here?


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