To fish or not to fish?
 

Villian seems like an average player. Hasn't bluffed alot, havn't seen him slow play anything.


I put this guy on a Ace, maybe a king, and I'm pretty confident about that read. I have 12 outs after flop (any Q or diamond). Would it be better to try and raise his bet on the flop instead of call to discourage a turn bet?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $20.40
BB: $22.20
UTG: $29.85
Hero (BTN): $26.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $2.10</font>, Hero calls $2.10

Turn: ($6.30) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $6.30</font>, Hero?

Here I'm 25% to hit, pot odds say nay. Do any of you call here?

what i did in white

<font color="white"> I folded. If we were both deepstacked I might have called figuring to win a [censored] if I hit. </font>

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

Well do you think villain can fold a king here at the minimum? If he is capable of at least that, then I would raise the flop and then check behind the turn UI. As played I fold due to you clearly not having odds here even if you stack him on the river.

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

Raise the flop. Build the pot. Get yourself the option of a free river, he'll probably check turn. Not to mention possible fold equity on flop.

As played, fold.

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

Fold the turn - raise the flop. If he pushes, call

Board: Ad 9d Kc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.047% 40.05% 00.00% 11894 0.00 { JdTd }
Hand 1: 59.953% 59.95% 00.00% 17806 0.00 { 99, AKs, A9s, K9s, AKo, A9o, K9o }

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

that range is ridiculously tight as well.

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

I would probably make a pot size raise on the flop seeing as we have position. If villian shoves, I think we have to call with this draw (althought thats a maths problem probably). By raising this flop I hope villian who is OOP will check the turn and I'll probably take a free turn card, unless I have a good read that villian will prob fold to turn bet from us. This is just the same as raising for a free (techincally half price) turn card in limit holdem.

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

Not raising the flop here leaves money on the table

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

i'd fold

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

The best advices has already been giving. Raise flop. It's easy. It's also very likely we get a free river card playing that way since we have position.

That range posted is WAAAAAAY to tight, please add in a few couple 1 pair hands there and we are even more of a favorite.

Re: To fish or not to fish?
 

same here: raise flop. the way it was played, fold.