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tommo 07-16-2007 05:35 PM

difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
villain is a good thinking tag. He could definitely be 3 betting me light. We haven't been mixing it up too much.

he probably views me as a somewhat bluffy/spewy lag.

he hasn't 3 bet me too many times and he's shown up with a hand at all the showdowns I've seen him in.

He is iamsnow on pokerstars if that means anything.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $905.80
BB: $768.45
UTG: $609.00
porktom (CO): $1,158.80
BTN: $911.10

Preflop: porktom is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">porktom raises to $18.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $60.00</font>, porktom calls $42.00

Flop: ($123) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $90.00</font>, porktom calls $90.00

Turn: ($303) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, porktom checks

River: ($303) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $216.00</font>, porktom folds

Pot Size: $519.00 ($2 Rake)

FGators 07-16-2007 05:38 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
Well played. This is usually the line that KK/AA takes. With those hands they usually are attempting the check/shove to stack stubborn Jacks or QQ, like you have.

This whole 3 bet preflop, bet flop, check turn, confidently bet river needs a forum Theorem name because frankly this is never a bluff, in my experience.

It looks somewhat sketchy but AK would generally check flop or attempt to bet-bet-bet on a bluff trying to move you off a marginal hand.

berserk 07-16-2007 05:52 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
I'm definitely calling this river, if I were in his spot with AJ I'd definitely vbet the river. You really have to think that hes bluffing never to fold here.

FGators 07-16-2007 05:55 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
Now that I see its CO vs BB I think this is actually a lot closer. Call might be ok.

tcorbin16 07-16-2007 06:57 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
id bet money says you didnt fold this, but i dont mind this line too much.

call or fold works for me.

Trivial 07-17-2007 01:09 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
Don't mind the line on this board as long as you call the river, he can definitely be value betting worse and it will occasionally be a bluff.

jfish 07-17-2007 01:14 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
callllllllll because its you.

jambon 07-17-2007 01:46 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
call all day, hes valuebetting worse and bluffing easily often enough if hes a good thinking tag

mappedout 07-17-2007 02:17 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
i think this is a call for sure against this oppn generally, your gonna be good somewhere around 75% of the time most likely.

Jamougha 07-17-2007 02:22 PM

Re: difficult river decision 3bet pot QQ
 
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he probably views me as a somewhat bluffy/spewy lag.


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just put the money in somewhere


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