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smarterthanyoda 07-14-2007 04:19 AM

Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
Live, 8-handed, 8/16 table. The cutoff plays loose and fairly aggressive pre-flop and flop but is loose/passive on the turn and river. I'm in the highjack with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Preflop: 3 limpers, I call, cutoff raises, BB and all limpers call.

Flop [12 SB]: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
It's checked to me and I bet, hoping the button will raise to protect my hand from redraws.

Did I overplay this marginal draw? Should I have even called preflop with this hand?

WhiteKnight 07-14-2007 04:24 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
Preflop is an easy call.

I would check the flop to the CO, hoping he would bet and I would be able to:

1) Trap the field for 2 bets each with a likely large edge in equity.
2) Possibly buy a free card on the turn.

Why are we worrying about the redraw when we are not yet there?

Edit: with your post-flop passivity read, now I'm not so sure.

StrictlyStrategy 07-14-2007 05:04 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
He's loose passive on the turn and river. If he bets and more than one person call CR dat shizzle and yell hollllaaaaa while doing so.

Are you worried about the naked A:Spade: or a higher flush draw? Because nobody, NOBDOY is folding a higher flush draw..

smarterthanyoda 07-14-2007 05:09 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
I don't think a higher flush draw is folding, but a LAG may even be raising with A high. In that case, I could be buying myself 6 additional outs.

The general principal from SSHE I was trying to apply was protect your hand in large pots, even adding a few percentage points to your equity is worth an additional bet. Am I misapplying that principal here?

WhiteKnight 07-14-2007 05:11 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
Reading comprehension ftw!

HoneyBadger 07-14-2007 05:35 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
There's nothing to protect here. They even say so in SSHE, if you go by that.

Don't let him limit the field with your nice draw. You are much stronger multiway than heads-up, as your equity does not change much, so the more people, the greater your equity edge. Heads-up you have an equity deficit.

BigBadBabar 07-14-2007 05:42 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
you don't have a hand you have a draw

raising drives out the equity you want multiway

easy check

WhiteKnight 07-14-2007 05:52 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
[ QUOTE ]
you don't have a hand you have a draw

raising drives out the equity you want multiway

easy check

[/ QUOTE ]

Archbishop says the most using the fewest words, QFT.

HoneyBadger 07-14-2007 06:21 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Archbishop says the most using the fewest words, QFT.

[/ QUOTE ]
Only because he was summarizing me :P [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I want a cookie too...

WhiteKnight 07-14-2007 06:33 AM

Re: Should I protect this small flush draw?
 
Heh, this reminds me of that Old Mother Hubbard book...
"If you give a Badger a cookie..."


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