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Mr_Donktastic 07-12-2007 11:52 PM

NL200: Backdoor in to 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
Villain is a taggy 2+2er. Haven't played with him in a while but he is pretty tight preflop and very aggro postflop, esp vs me it seems. Very capable of floating, making big bluffs, etc but not spewy. He prob views me as about the same.

This hand happened first, maybe one or two orbits before.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB ($200)
UTG ($210.30)
UTG+1 ($36.90)
MP1 ($84.50)
MP2 ($183.85)
MP3 ($132.05)
CO ($300)
Button ($76.50)
Hero ($246.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with xx
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($16) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($40) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($40) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $70

The hand in question:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 ($241.70)
CO ($201)
Button ($114)
Hero ($231.95)
BB ($212.65)
UTG ($207.90)
UTG+1 ($117.25)
MP1 ($17)
MP2 ($264.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($16) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($40) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $54</font>, Hero calls or pushes?

CalledDownLight 07-13-2007 12:00 AM

Re: NL200: Back into 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
I like to shove this since a worse aces up is probably most of his range. If this is vs. the_main you'll probably just value stack yourself though (or at least I always do).

GrandMelon 07-13-2007 12:10 AM

Re: NL200: Back into 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
Who is villain? I have a feeling I know who it is

Mr_Donktastic 07-13-2007 12:12 AM

Re: NL200: Back into 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
[ QUOTE ]
Who is villain? I have a feeling I know who it is

[/ QUOTE ]

I woulda put it in the post if I felt like telling you.. dummy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

And you didn't even reply to the hand...sheesh.

GrandMelon 07-13-2007 12:22 AM

Re: NL200: Back into 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Who is villain? I have a feeling I know who it is

[/ QUOTE ]

I woulda put it in the post if I felt like telling you.. dummy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

And you didn't even reply to the hand...sheesh.

[/ QUOTE ]
Whats wrong with saying who villain is? I could give a better reply if I knew who the villain was.

As played Id just call. Im not sure what he checks the turn with that raises the river, maybe a worse aces up or Axdx trying to squeak out some value? Even with this being said I dont shove river since I doubt he calls with worse and theres a chance he slowplayed a set since its a BvB battle.

Edit: 57 is a possibility as well

Mr_Donktastic 07-13-2007 12:28 AM

Re: NL200: Back into 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
I think he plays slightly differently vs me than he plays vs other people so I'd rather people just replied given the generic read.

TwoNitty 07-13-2007 12:30 AM

Re: NL200: Back into 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
minraise!

smw1992 07-13-2007 12:32 AM

Re: NL200: Backdoor in to 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
I would just call. That may be losing value but I think he only calls a shove with a better hand.

mce86 07-13-2007 12:34 AM

Re: NL200: Backdoor in to 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
Ah crap. Call, and look at his set of sixes.

Foldem78 07-13-2007 12:41 PM

Re: NL200: Back into 2 pair in blind battle vs 2+2er
 
This is a bit over my limit..

I don't think he plays a set this passively. I suspect he wants some pot control while actually thinking his hand is best (most of the time)..

I'd probably raise on the river.


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