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spino1i 07-12-2007 08:08 PM

20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
20/40 NL at the Commerce. The table is fairly good though there are a few sharks at the table (Song, a balding asian guy is one of them). Villain in the hand is an asian lady (40s-ish) in a business suit, im not sure if she's a regular in the game or not. She's very aggressive and loose and is capable of bluffing, but also likes to call. She doesnt like to be bluffed and calls most bluffs down with some fairly weak hands. She also likes to draw but not a ton. She's not a complete donk by an means and has already snapped off some bluffs and bullied around some other players at the table.

Villain and me have no prior history and villain views me as a very tight player. Villain knows little about any intracies of my play.

I have $3940. She covers.

8-handed. She limps in like UTG+1, another guy limps in, small blind completes and I check the big blind with 64o.

Flop is 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Pot = $160)

I lead out for $100. She raises to $300. I repop to $1000. She calls.

Turn is 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot = $2160)

At this point, I get this pretty strong read that I think she is drawing, though she might have a weak made hand.

I bet 1900$ (leaves me with like $1000 behind).

I think I bet too much here, but im not sure. Perhaps betting $800 would be better?

jlocdog 07-12-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
Funny, I get the feeling she has a hand like A4d/54d/ maybe K4d....with that being the case I just continue to fire turn since she will almost always bet with these hands.

spino1i 07-12-2007 08:16 PM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
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Funny, I get the feeling she has a hand like A4d/54d/ maybe K4d....with that being the case I just continue to fire turn since she will almost always bet with these hands.

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She cant have the flush draw and trips at the same time. Theres only one 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the deck.

TheWorstPlayer 07-12-2007 08:16 PM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
i think you should bet 1000ish

jlocdog 07-12-2007 08:17 PM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
whoops my bad....I meant A4suited/54suited/maybe K4suited

pnazari 07-12-2007 08:21 PM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
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20/40 NL at the Commerce. The table is fairly good though there are a few sharks at the table (Song, a balding asian guy is one of them). Villain in the hand is an asian lady (40s-ish) in a business suit, im not sure if she's a regular in the game or not. She's very aggressive and loose and is capable of bluffing, but also likes to call. She doesnt like to be bluffed and calls most bluffs down with some fairly weak hands. She also likes to draw but not a ton. She's not a complete donk by an means and has already snapped off some bluffs and bullied around some other players at the table.

Villain and me have no prior history and villain views me as a very tight player. Villain knows little about any intracies of my play.
I have $3940. She covers.

8-handed. She limps in like UTG+1, another guy limps in, small blind completes and I check the big blind with 64o.

Flop is 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Pot = $160)

I lead out for $100. She raises to $300. I repop to $1000. She calls.

Turn is 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot = $2160)

At this point, I get this pretty strong read that I think she is drawing, though she might have a weak made hand.

I bet 1900$ (leaves me with like $1000 behind).

I think I bet too much here, but im not sure. Perhaps betting $800 would be better?

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Didnt know nits made intricate plays lol. i bet 12-1500 on turn and get it in on the river.

KakiTee 07-12-2007 09:44 PM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
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i think you should bet 1000ish

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Bill King 07-12-2007 10:02 PM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
i would probably just shove as shes probably never folding any big 4, and betting 2/3 ur stack and then shoving river is the same as shoving here IMO

Kirkrrr 07-13-2007 03:39 PM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
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i would probably just shove as shes probably never folding any big 4, and betting 2/3 ur stack and then shoving river is the same as shoving here IMO

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There's a huge difference between betting 2/3 or all of it since if she's still on a big combo draw, betting less will give her "odds" to call drawing dead, which we want, while if we bet AI she won't be able to call with almost anything, which we don't want.

It's pretty awkward to bet less on the turn than you did on the flop, so I would try to bet the minimum like 1200 maybe, and obv try to get the rest in on the river.

Kirk

JackAll 07-14-2007 01:26 AM

Re: 20/40 Commerce hand.. I prolly screw up
 
Half pot obv.


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