\"standard\" stats for HU NL Cash Games
 

Are there any? VPIP, PRF, etc?

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Are there any? VPIP, PRF, etc?

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Tight players generally have 35%ish vpip's, LAGs have about 40%+, Phil Ivey has a 60% vpip and all can be profitable. I think its much more telling to look at how often people 3-bet but the point is there is no standard.

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Yeah...I think that's why these games can be so profitable. I guess the lack of a starting hand chart is one of those reasons.

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Hu play IMO is more player dependant than hand dependant. thats where the post flop play comes into effect. i dont think you can follow a starting hand chart in HU play. maybe in lower blind levels, but you have to adapt your game more than once in a match with a decent player.

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Meh, I will argue until I'm blue in the face that 40%+ is LAG. 35% VPIP is downright nittish.

I play 47/36.

My IP raising range is pretty big. My OOP calling range is fairly small.

EDIT: I completely agree that it's really hard to quantify playstyles HU.

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im 40/35 i think

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47/36 is a pretty loose style, this may have contributed to the fact you had a 20 buyin downswing (I by no means mean this as an insult, Im not commenting on your skill merely an effect of your style) TAGgier styles have less variance and can make just as much (maybe somewhat less) but with tons less variance which makes them very viable.

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No insult taken.

My downswing was expressly the result of post flop plays, specifically bluffs. I am still playing a similar style pre-flop (slightly tighter OOP) and it has been pretty smooth sailing. One 5 BI downer due to bad play.

Lots of money in c-betting.

EDIT: To be clear, I changed my post flop playstyle pretty significantly.

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LJ,

In general, what major adjustments did you make to your postflop play?

OP,

For my preflop I am around 50/32, but I am trying to raise more and call less. 45/35 would be sweet. Also, this is very opponent dependent. I think some of my higher VPIP is due to opponents who don't correctly punish limps.

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Yeah, VPIP/PFR is opponent and stack dependent imo. The deeper we are, the wider my ranges become. 3-4+ BI deep and I call almost all 3bets.

Honestly, I pretty much stopped bluffing. I would bluff for my entire stack, which is a terrible way to play. Though my reads would be correct, SSHUNL players love to stack off very light. The easy way to combat this is to punish them with big hands and it works very well with very little variance. Of course, I CR air every once in a while to keep them guessing, and firing multiple barrels is totally acceptable. CRing AI based on a read is more or less out of my game (with few exceptions, see my thread on hands I butchered).

I am a pretty strong hand reader, so lots of my profit comes from making pretty crazy calls. So I figured that, and playing my large hands well, is enough to keep me at 8+ PTBB/100 at my stakes. So far, so good.