Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

Hi,

I'm a new member, i'm french so sorry for my langage.

#Game No : 6140013828
***** Hand History for Game 6140013828 *****
$25 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, July 10, 18:16:55 ET 2007
Table Table 126863 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: Coldsnap555 ( $27.07 USD )
Seat 8: b4bba ( $30.44 USD )
Seat 10: IBA85 ( $18.78 USD )
Seat 9: maximilli0n ( $27.11 USD )
Seat 7: Lamadjuret ( $21.48 USD )
Seat 5: schippo36 ( $29.51 USD )
Seat 6: pokertitan88 ( $5.42 USD )
Seat 3: PattheCat111 ( $5 USD )
Seat 2: r8weokvi91 ( $4.25 USD )
Seat 1: froggeh87 ( $25.32 USD )
b4bba posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
maximilli0n posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IBA85 [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
IBA85 calls [$0.25 USD]
froggeh87 calls [$0.25 USD]
r8weokvi91 folds
Coldsnap555 folds
schippo36 folds
pokertitan88 folds
Lamadjuret calls [$0.25 USD]
b4bba calls [$0.15 USD]
maximilli0n raises [$1.50 USD]
IBA85 calls [$1.50 USD]
froggeh87 calls [$1.50 USD]
Lamadjuret calls [$1.50 USD]
b4bba folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
maximilli0n checks
IBA85 bets [$3.25 USD]
froggeh87 folds
Lamadjuret folds
maximilli0n calls [$3.25 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
maximilli0n checks
IBA85 is all-In [$13.78 USD]
maximilli0n calls [$13.78 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
maximilli0n shows [ Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]three of a kind, Queens.
IBA85 shows [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]three of a kind, Fours.
maximilli0n wins $39.25 USD from the main pot with three of a kind,


My call before the flop was bad i know but only big stack and my aim in CG is to double.
I thought he had KK or AA but now i think if he had these hands, he never checks on the flop (coz two diamonds ).
So bad play ( exclude the call before the flop ) or that's poker ( and part of variance )?

Re: Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

thats poker, folding here would be terrible

Re: Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

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thats poker, folding here would be terrible

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Re: Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

and raise flop

Re: Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

If you lost a pot with a set and didn't get stacked you didn't play it right.

Re: Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

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thats poker, folding here would be terrible

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Re: Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

set over set is like more than 100:1 odds against so dont worry about over sets unless its like a limped pot and against a supernit

Re: Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

did you guys even read the OP before posting? he can neither fold nor raise when it's checked to him

people that raise preflop and then check the flop generally either have a set or crap, but it's not like you can get away from this with so much money in the pot and so little in your stack

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set over set is like more than 100:1 odds against so dont worry about over sets unless its like a limped pot and against a supernit

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this isn't even close to being accurate, or at least not in a useful context

Re: Set against set : is it possible to fold ?
 

The whole hand is correct.

The preflop limp and subsequent call both are profitable for set value. As long as you predict you will recoup 8x your preflop investment on average if you hit your set, it's good.

The flop bet is imperative. One can argue whether you should have gotten your stack in all on the turn or half on the turn and half on the river, but both are profitable.