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jsnipes28 07-10-2007 06:11 PM

bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
Villain is dwballz who has a history of owning me.

Do you like this or no?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

money2442: $2,692.20
dwballz: $1,730.00
TurkeyThomas: $1,942.00
Joescashflow: $439.60
JediPokerTrix: $2,257.00
Hero: $2,813.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $66.00</font>, money2442 folds, dwballz calls $46.00

Flop: ($142) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">dwballz bets $115.00</font>, Hero calls $115.00

Turn: ($372) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">dwballz bets $280.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $989.00</font>,

w33ktight 07-10-2007 06:19 PM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
Lately I've been looking up people in spots like this because when an aggressive player calls my flop bet on a board like that, I generally rule out flush draws because most aggressive players (at least ones that I play with) are going to raise cbets with flush draws on the flop.

Wouldn't be surprised if he put you on about what you had and shoved.

Terrabon98 07-10-2007 06:21 PM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
I do this sometimes, and think it's a good play if you have a lot of history with opponent and expect to keep playing him. I think you can get him to fold a decent amount of hands, and as long as you do play flush draws/sets like this occasionally, it's not bad. Also, if he does look u up, you have lotta outs and it will make him hesitant to bluff lead into you and double barrel you in the future

ajloeffl 07-10-2007 07:12 PM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
Does this guy lead into you often after you PF raise? It's possible he has a set or a flush and will call your raise here. He is showing a lot of strength by betting into you twice. I usually save steal plays for when the guy shows weakness.

If this guy owns you so often why try to make a play when he is probably good at seeing through them?

king_of_drafts 07-10-2007 07:20 PM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
I'm not in love with the flop float, but turn is fine. Are you calling if he shoves (I don't have a good answer to that lol)?

DJ Sensei 07-11-2007 02:24 AM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
meh to the turn raise, when he almost-pots twice he's pretty strong here, i think. plus you have to call a shove. flop float, well, dont do it too often but its alright now and again, especially if you have good reads on his postflop play.

tuuufts 07-11-2007 03:35 AM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
What about just calling the turn?

Big_Jim 07-11-2007 03:37 AM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
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What about just jamming the turn?

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Personally, I show up here with the flush a lot...

depends how often you think he's two barreling

emil3000 07-11-2007 03:40 AM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
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What about just jamming the turn?

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Personally, I show up here with the flush a lot...

depends how often you think he's two barreling

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Stack sizes are awkward for this, but I think jamming it is best, and yes you can definitely have a flush here a lot.

Big_Jim 07-11-2007 03:49 AM

Re: bluffing, floating and being retarded
 
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Are you calling if he shoves (I don't have a good answer to that lol)?

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really?

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