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Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

50BBs is not deep enough to be folding KK preflop without an oreo like tell.

While live fish like to hollywood and pretend they're upset when they have a moster, who is to say what a monster is to this guy QQ JJ AK?

Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

Shove.

Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

i dont think im ever folding kings in a sng unless maybee 10 people, 9 all get a million and every1 proceeds to go all in im in bb , i muck the kings and become rich [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

looks like you have a good read, but im not folding for 50 BBs.

A normal sit n go online starts with only 75 BBs.

Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

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Stacks are 50 BB's. Ten handed. Villain is about 40 and hispanic. Buy in $1000, winner take all.

Villain opens UTG to 3 BB's, hero raises black kings to 12 BB's OTB, Villain looks down at his chips and starts shaking his head like he is pissed he is getting 3-bet again. He looks at his cards, mutters something to himself and then grabs 30 BB's and tosses them into the middle of the table.

My read was what live fish do with the nuts right before they raise. They start pretending like they don't like that you've bet/raised them. They go into a routine and then they raise/re-raise you.

I turbo muck my kings face-up onto the middle of the table. I wasn't even sure what I would do if he re-raised, mucking them was just like when the doctor knocks your knee with that little hammer and your leg goes up against your will. They just came flying out of my hand.

Only time I've ever folded KK PF.

Thoughts?

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I think that is pretty much a spot on read. The only other hand I can see him doing all that crap with is KK.

Everyone saying you fold, look what the villian is doing:
Looks at his chips first (unconscious [sp?] tell)
Then starts hollywooding:
Shakes his head
Pretends to get pissed
Looks at his cards
Says something audible enough for his opponent to hear

Then tosses another 30 BB in.

AA - 95% of the time
KK - 4% of the time
?? - 1% of the time

Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

Not deep enough to fold - especially in a winner takes all.

Even if it was a good fold, why do it face up? You're just begging to get taken advantage of. Put your ego to one side and quietly muck like you made a move with 23o.

Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

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Even if it was a good fold, why do it face up? You're just begging to get taken advantage of. Put your ego to one side and quietly muck like you made a move with 23o.

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why ever show?

Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

^^ Well, precisely. I never do and I rarely understand why anyone does. I don't see any benefit in showing here.

Re: Live SNG, I folded Kings PF!
 

what kind of face did the guy make when he saw you folded KK?