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crossroader 07-09-2007 09:27 PM

good fold? bad fold?
 
Villian is Wuleq, ive played with him a little in the past, he seems a bit lag. At first i thought i made a good laydown but today i was thinking it over again & thought maybe he bluffed me? any help?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($387)
CO ($445)
Hero ($473.50)
SB ($396)
BB ($516.50)
UTG ($278.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $46</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $32.

Flop: ($98) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $220</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $378

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. CO wins $378. </font>

crossroader 07-09-2007 09:29 PM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
i was assuming he either flopped a set, had AA or fd w/overs like AK/AQ of hearts, and ran poker stove w/his range 1010, 77, 66, AA &amp; AK of hearts &amp; he was over 88% so i guess it was a good fold

RiverHebrew2 07-09-2007 09:36 PM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
I see people make plays on this kinda flop all day assuming you have AJs-AK much more than overpairs. I think shoving is best with 100BB stacks. Besides, you beat weakish and scared on the flop neway.

crossroader 07-09-2007 09:44 PM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
yeah, but even if hes making a move what kind of hand would he do this with that i beat? jacks? 9's?

Black winter day 07-09-2007 10:26 PM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
I don't mind the fold, even if he has something like Ah, it's basically a flip and you might be in a bad shape against a set or overpair.

You almost never a big favorite here.

mike0292 07-09-2007 10:35 PM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
folderino

Dazarath 07-09-2007 10:51 PM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
Any history on the table? Have you been 3-betting him a lot? First time? Without much history, I usually shove this but don't feel too great about it. If you've been 3-betting a lot, I shove and feel great about it. If this is like your first time, I'd probably fold, but I wouldn't be too happy.

Trivial 07-09-2007 11:43 PM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
I would shove here. That's why you bet weak on the flop, right?

sdv 07-10-2007 04:23 AM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
"he seems a bit Lag"

That's enough for shoving here..

Big_Jim 07-10-2007 05:10 AM

Re: good fold? bad fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i was thinking it over again &amp; thought maybe he bluffed me?

[/ QUOTE ]
Don't beat yourself up.

It was likely a bad fold against this guy, but it wasn't a terrible fold by any means, and if your reads aren't strong yet, you give yourself a chance to get some stronger reads before going with somewhat marginal spots.

Sometimes your gut tells you you're beat, and you should just muck.

If you're gonna fold here, though, just make sure you don't tank. Do it quick.


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