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cooker3 07-08-2007 07:03 AM

50 nl, line check
 
Villain is really aggro pf but very passive post flop, he is a big donk though and will call with pretty much any pair and if he spots weakness then he is no issues going for it.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

hero (SB): $74.80
BB: $19.50
UTG: $16.45
MP: $13.65
CO: $53.10
BTN: $85.50

Preflop: hero is dealt Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">hero raises to $10.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $8.00

Flop: ($20.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">hero bets $14.50</font>

Pot Size: $35.00

The problem with the bet is it is unlikely he folds anything I beat, I have a pair zomg call etc yet if I check he could well bet without the goods and I really can't call as he could easily bet out decent hand so what is the best play after the flop?

greggg230 07-08-2007 07:08 AM

Re: 50 nl, line check
 
That pre-flop raise is way, way too big. The pot is $2.75 and you're raising $7.25? Making it $5.50 or $6 is much better.

C-bet there is pretty standard since people often give 3-betters credit for a big pair, but I might make it a little less, around $10-$12. It accomplishes the same thing and saves you money if he has a hand. Fold to a raise every time.

Chomp 07-08-2007 07:23 AM

Re: 50 nl, line check
 
Preflop is ultra, ultra non-standard. I make it $7 to go preflop OOP here.

I'd then cbet this flop say $11 (pot $15). If called, I usually go into c/f mode UI considering your read.

cooker3 07-08-2007 07:47 AM

Re: 50 nl, line check
 
Oh in terms of the pf raise. The reason it is so big is because the villain is such a huge donk pf, he would call all 3 bets if he raised, it was irrelevant what he had therefore I decided I might as well make the pf raisers bigger and exacerbate his mistakes, It is not standard but he is still calling which rather backs up my point of why I am doing it.

Peter Harris 07-08-2007 08:12 AM

Re: 50 nl, line check
 
if he'll call ALL 3bets when raised you want to shove PF so your AK can see all 5 cards.

I think you either need to refine your statement or embrace variance.

cooker3 07-08-2007 08:16 AM

Re: 50 nl, line check
 
Ok maybe not all, not sure he would call a really big push all in although I never tried
Lets say he is willing to call above average sized 3 bets with junk. I am trying to get as much money pf as I can so likely to make the raisers even bigger not smaller seeing as he is still calling

Shizzle12345 07-08-2007 09:02 AM

Re: 50 nl, line check
 
if hes a big donk and sees a low flop he will probably call alot of hands. So i would check here.

Especially since hes passive u can get free cards here.


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