FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

I am new to the table, and villian is unknown, so no stats. However, from what I have seen he appears to be a donk. He limps around a lot and seems passive. I was kind of lost on this river. I decided to bet because I think his most likely holding is just a J, and he could possibly talk himself into calling. Either way, this seemed kinda thin and I'm not sure how good/standard it is. Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $5 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($1109.20)
Button ($990)
SB ($1508.30)
Hero ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $45</font>, UTG calls $35.

Flop: ($92.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $75</font>, UTG calls $75.

Turn: ($242.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $170</font>, UTG calls $170.

River: ($582.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $370</font>,

Re: FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

check and see what he does

Re: FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

id prefer $190.

Re: FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

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id prefer $190.

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In retrospect I think I do as well, and I dont really like checking.

Re: FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

I don't care what two cards I'm holding, I shove vs. a $190 bet 100% of the time.

Just me or do we see some sort of J here a lot? AJ or J flush is my chief concern though TP+FD probably raises somewhere?

I'm with BW...check and see what happens.

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Re: FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

why would Jx shove rather than call?

Re: FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

I do this too, but bet closer to 300.

Re: FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

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why would Jx shove rather than call?

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Cause with a $190 bet, OP is repping exactly what he's got, and that has Jx beat.

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Re: FTP 2.5/5 Thin river value bet with KK
 

I can't see villain no matter how donkish calling a bet after we bet all 3 streets with this particular river and we take the pot down. Chances are given the description villain is probably calling down light anyway, and if he doesn't have AJ, or another A that made 2 pair or spades he's not calling. I prefer a c/f to a value bet here. But I'm obviously not folding here every time, it depends on what kind of bet he makes.

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why would Jx shove rather than call?

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Cause with a $190 bet, OP is repping exactly what he's got, and that has Jx beat.

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don't level yourself when the guys a donk. block bets work fine against donks. i like the small bet.