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badplayer 07-03-2007 10:59 PM

I finally made a set but...
 
Villain is new, but seemed rather passive post-flop.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero ?

Can I fold this?
Or I am insane?

Buzz-cp 07-03-2007 11:04 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
gotta call. I don't think there is any room for a raise.

BigBadBabar 07-03-2007 11:05 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
insane.

raise and call a 3bet. i think it's lower sets/2 pair more than it's kj.

Gib 07-03-2007 11:07 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
whatever u do don't fold there are still a few hands he could be doing this with (ie AT/AQ/33). That said tho, I would still only call here.

Wetdog 07-03-2007 11:09 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
Villain's most likely holdings are QT, TT and AT. Since he c/c the flop and went nuts on the turn, I'm thinking less about AT.

So, yeah, the second one.

CrMenace 07-03-2007 11:10 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
GRUNCH

No way on earth you are folding this. Villain could have AA or KJ, but could also have two pair or 33. There's certainly a 1 in 12 chance you are a winner here.

Buzz-cp 07-03-2007 11:14 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
[ QUOTE ]
insane.

raise and call a 3bet. i think it's lower sets/2 pair more than it's kj.

[/ QUOTE ]

villain rather passive postflop? Calling a 3-bet is like wtf does he have, AT? lol. If we are raising, we are folding to a trey.

BigBadBabar 07-03-2007 11:23 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
lol @ raisefolding

just call then buzz if you put him on kj

Gib 07-03-2007 11:29 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
hey BBB, the thing with these hands that rly annoys me is every time I only call the river MHIG but when I raise I always get 3bet &amp; MHING [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] (cept in the obvious case against a moran!) I don't get it lol, I end up wishing i raised the hands i called with &amp; called the ones i raised!!

Maybe I need to use game theory to choose when to raise &amp; when to call! Or maybe flipaments!!

badplayer 07-03-2007 11:32 PM

Re: I finally made a set but...
 
Raising did not really occur to me.

I call 99.9%, fold 0.09%, raise 0.01% of the time. And I honestly felt like folding might be right.

So of course I called.


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