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Womble 07-02-2007 12:59 PM

25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $11.75
BB: $24.75
UTG: $56.17
MP: $24.75
Hero (CO): $22.70
BTN: $36.38

Reads: <font color="blue">Guy seems fishy and is 59/18/1 over 30 hands. Seems pretty standard but what do you think about a flop raise?</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.95, MP folds

Flop: ($2.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $2.25</font>, Hero calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $4.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00

Pot Size: $15.25 ($1.26 Rake)

Waingro 07-02-2007 01:12 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
I think his flop donk is two random cards a lot, so I like your line. I forego protection and hope to induce another bet from him. I like a flop raise if you are planning to call a push, otherwise not so much.

C4LL4W4Y 07-02-2007 01:12 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
Yeah I'd probably raise the flop vs. this guy.

monkover 07-02-2007 01:15 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
standard as you already said. I really donīt like raising the flop b/c you will only get called by better hands or fd. checking the turn for pot control is good too. calling the river is obligatory. ithink you got the max out of worse hands and lost the min to better ones.

ajmargarine 07-02-2007 01:21 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
PF meh.

Postflop, nh.

Briman51 07-02-2007 01:26 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
I'm not a massive fan of the preflop raise, maybe from the button, but I'm mostly calling here.

Apart from that I think you played it perfectly. You don't want to be reraising here as you're raise will make him fold his bluffs with ace high and lower poket pairs. You'll get called by KQ, or KJ. Additionally, if he is betting a flush draw he's unlikely to put it down to a raise as you'd have to make it really large to not give him the implied odds to call.

A final thought, he could have hit a set on this flop. The preflop action justifies this. As does his bet on the flop, hoping you'll raise him with a K and not giving you a free card with a flush draw. His check on the turn also, makes this look like a possible hand, as, ofcourse does the value bet on the river.

One problem you have with calling is that you have less information on him, this makes it harder to play correctly on later streets. But in this instance I prefer your decision to keep the pot size small over defining the hand.

What diid he have?

ajmargarine 07-02-2007 02:01 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm not a massive fan of the preflop raise, maybe from the button, but I'm mostly calling here.



[/ QUOTE ]

Boooo. Raise or fold any hand you want to play after one limper. 2 limpers before us, then we can start thinking about limping junk.

jessyj07 07-02-2007 02:11 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
[ QUOTE ]
Boooo. Raise or fold any hand you want to play after one limper.

[/ QUOTE ]I disagree. If the limper is a total calling station and has a c-bet fold of &lt;40% I think limping behind a good amount of hands is good because he won't fold in a limped pot either where if you hit you can build a pot with position against the bad player.

kitchma 07-02-2007 03:08 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
[ QUOTE ]
PF meh.

Postflop, nh.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why is PF "meh"? Isn't this a pretty standard raise from the CO with only one limper?

whizzle 07-02-2007 03:11 PM

Re: 25nl KTs vs flop donk
 
nh post Pf and postflop


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