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Beanos 07-02-2007 07:38 AM

JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $6</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $104.65</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($217.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $217.3)


Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($217.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $217.3)


River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($217.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $217.3)


Results:
Final pot: $217.3

Opp was 25/10/3.5. I dont normally like stacking with JJ but my raise looks like a squeeze, i think he deffinitely shoves AK and maybe AQ, TT (prob not, who knows), i was playing fairly agro pre. Who likes calling the shove?

If im not willing to call the shove, i dont feel i should raise, who agrees? Its unlikely he is going to call my 3-bet so raising would be purely to take it down preflop if im not going to call a shove. Therefore who likes not 3-betting, just calling pre?

Jamougha 07-02-2007 08:12 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
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Opp was 25/10/3.5.

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He is a semi-fish, not a player from those stats. I fold. Standard call against a tag.

Beanos 07-02-2007 08:23 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
Sorry, stats are 25/20/3.5

redCashion 07-02-2007 08:33 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
I fold, the closer the VPIP and preflop raise are, the more likely I call.

Kilillan 07-02-2007 08:34 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
yeah I call

Elverian 07-02-2007 08:49 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
Got to be better spots to get your cash in.

Usually you're looking at an overpair here - villain was only in for $6 yet is willing to commit his stack. He has to think you have at least a hand like TT, AQ etc and isn't bothered in the least.

If he has a strong but not premium hand, wouldn't he flat call and try to use his position post flop?

Beanos 07-02-2007 10:18 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
I wouldnt have thought he will call this much often in hopes of hitting a flop. The pot would already be towards 60 dollars. I think if i intend to fold after he shoves, i shouldnt 3-bet. It depends on heros image at the table/history

joeblack 07-02-2007 10:25 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
I would fold. I am pretty sure you are an underdog, at best up against AQ/AK but most likely QQ-AA.

Also next time don't post the flop, turn, river. It's irrelevant to the pre-flop decision.

Beanos 07-02-2007 10:37 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
Yeah thanks, i just copied and pasted, it was quicker. Do you still make the 3-bet Joe?

ArgusSpets 07-02-2007 10:57 AM

Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?
 
on stars this is super duper quick instamuck... on ftp i dunno but cant imagine theyre like pushing against a squeeze which COULD be like QQ/KK or similar also... so id dump it quickly too...


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