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1C5 02-22-2006 10:33 PM

Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
This is what I think anyway.

Calling ranges seem to have gone way down and many times there are 300/600 blinds with 8 players left= crapshoot.

nthn2fancy 02-22-2006 10:37 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
i agree, i think i am moving to pokerstars. gonna lose my extras but oh well.

Newt_Buggs 02-22-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
I still haven't played since the changes but the reasons that you list seem like they would impact ROI much more than variance. Are you suggesting that ROI will be lower which will lead to worse downswings?

wpr101 02-22-2006 10:39 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
I don't think it increases variance that much. I have never seen the blinds at 300/600 with 8 people. It's important to adapt to the new structure. Can you explain further why it would increase variance?

Lori 02-22-2006 10:40 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
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i agree, i think i am moving to pokerstars. gonna lose my extras but oh well.

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The slow $11s from my sample of nine tourneys seem to be utterly simple. My longest one was only 67 mins and second longest was 62 mins so they are still going to be quicker and easier than stars.

Lori

GreekHouse 02-22-2006 10:41 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
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Can you explain further why it would increase variance?

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It doesn't. But it might increase your downswings and RoR. The reason is that the shorter structure will almost certainly decrease your ROI.

meleader2 02-22-2006 10:41 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
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This is what I think anyway.

Calling ranges seem to have gone way down and many times there are 300/600 blinds with 8 players left= crapshoot.

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this is not a problem if you have good ring play. shoving is not an option anymore, bet 2/3 the pot consistently! they call with 2nd pair. it's ridiculous. they never believe ur 800t raise when the blinds are 100t.

fold early on to the dreaded min raise! ak isn't that good.

suzzer99 02-22-2006 10:42 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
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i agree, i think i am moving to pokerstars. gonna lose my extras but oh well.

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It's almost the same structure, but at PS you get less starting chips (1500).

ZeeJustin 02-22-2006 10:43 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
If you finish 1/2/3 x/y/z % in both turbos and regulars, your swings will be the same in each.

The only way the OP would make sense is if he is arguing ROI would be lower (which is most likely correct).

pooh74 02-22-2006 10:43 PM

Re: Prediction: Swings will be crazy at the speeds
 
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i agree, i think i am moving to pokerstars. gonna lose my extras but oh well.

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It's almost the same structure, but at PS you get less starting chips (1500).

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