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Sparks 06-29-2007 02:37 AM

Two Against One at Bellagio
 
I thought this was an interesting hand at Bellagio 30-60. Roy Cooke seemed intrigued by it anyway, although he wasn't involved. Actually, everyone at the table was interested by the time the hand was over.

I open raise with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in MP, a table-changing tilted lady calls, and Danny (I think his name was) calls on the button. The blinds fold and the flop comes:

A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet, lady calls, Danny raises, I 3-bet, lady calls, Danny 4-bets, I cap, and the lady calls. Turn is:

[A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, lady calls, Danny raises, I 3-bet, lady calls, Danny 4-bets, I cap, and the lady calls. River is:

[A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, lady flashes Ace/rag of diamonds and folds. Danny raises, I call. Danny of course has the J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and we all talk about the hand for a few moments.

Here's what I thought was interesting in thinking back about the hand. In the end there were 30 BB's in the pot with three players, and I think the only mistake on the only street was my bet on the river. That is, everyone played the hand correctly. How often does that happen in a 30 BB pot? I don't think too often.

As described above, the betting was furious and by the river, I have to say I thought the club missed Danny. In retrospect, I think it was a mistake, but a couple others I talked to have said it wasn't a bad bet.

Without quibbling over whether the lady should have folded/raised preflop, or whether Danny's call on the button was the best play, would anyone disagree that the hand was played properly by all on every street? I can't seem to find any mistakes.

Thanks.

Vehn 06-29-2007 02:48 AM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
if danny is a non retard best play is check call river

Captain R 06-29-2007 03:07 AM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
The part I find the most interesting is that it looks like you were freerolling Danny on the flop, but he ended up being the one that was freerolling you (minus the 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]).

swope 06-29-2007 03:52 AM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
was danny a short, youngish dude? built/looks a *little* like stu unger? never chops?

AZplayer 06-29-2007 07:37 AM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
Wow - I was at this table when this happened. I was the 7 seat next to the kid from Washington DC (Blake).

cgrohman 06-29-2007 09:29 AM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
Really? He could have any J10 there and you want the lady to call a bet with her ace or whatever. I bet/call the river.

MitchL 06-29-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
I agree that it was played fine by all involved, but I think a) that 3 people not making a mistake in a hand is not as rare as you are making it out to be b)That there is not 1 tough decision for any of the players involved making it more likely that everyone would play their hand correctly.

andyfox 06-29-2007 11:13 AM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
Yeah, two people flopped the nuts, the 3rd a draw to the nuts, so one would expect betting and raising all the way.

mongidig 06-29-2007 02:33 PM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
Is the lady's smoothcall on the flop correct. Should she have raised here?

pohuist 06-29-2007 02:45 PM

Re: Two Against One at Bellagio
 
I think it was played correctly from the turn on. Preflop action is suspect but disregarding this, I think Danny overplayed his hand on the flop. Its hard to put you on exactly JTd, but once you 3 bet you either have a set or JT with redraw, and between you and the lady their must be at least 1 diamond draw. Your river bet is correct.


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