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ajml 06-28-2007 11:01 PM

50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
Villain is 35/15/2 over 500 hands.... I have no notes on him. Check here or bet 3/4 pot? River plan?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($49.20)
UTG ($23.35)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($59.15)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($55.75)</font>
Button ($80.25)
SB ($52.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($6.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, MP calls $7.

Turn: ($26.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero ...

ajmargarine 06-28-2007 11:06 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
Huh? The guy is 35/35 over 500 hands and he limps here? I'm not too sure about preflop after two limpers from CO. ANd I see no reason to raise the flop.

ajml 06-28-2007 11:10 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
Oh my bad 35/15. You don't like a flop raise to try to take it down and maybe fold a little bit better Ace? Also to get to a free river if the turn card is bad. I really expected him to just fold. Also, UTG is 60/12

Check_The_Nuts 06-28-2007 11:14 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
I would only bet here if I thought he'd hit river big if I didn't. In which case 17-&gt;18 seems abotu right (and about the size of a bet I'd like on the river). Your really trying to extract from KK/KQ here, since you only at best split with any other ace.

ajmargarine 06-28-2007 11:15 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
I doubt he's folding a better hand to your raise. Call, reevaluate turn.

Check_The_Nuts 06-28-2007 11:17 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
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I doubt he's folding a better hand to your raise. Call, reevaluate turn.

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2nd part doesn't make sense?

ajmargarine 06-28-2007 11:23 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
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I doubt he's folding a better hand to your raise. Call, reevaluate turn.

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2nd part doesn't make sense?

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Call the flop bet. If villain leads strongish into Hero on a non-6 turn, you can just fold on the turn.

Check_The_Nuts 06-28-2007 11:26 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
yeah, villian checked though?

and I think I fold to any turn bet from villian bigger than half pot.

ajmargarine 06-28-2007 11:41 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
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yeah, villian checked though?



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Yes, but does he check if you just call the flop?

ajml 06-28-2007 11:42 PM

Re: 50 NL- A6 Turns Trips, now what?
 
Some thoughts... I should have included more in the original post, I was still playing, sorry I won't do that anymore. Also I am not sure this was post worthy either but whatever.

Preflop-
Folding is definitely standard. Against these opponents, specifically UTG, I think I can get away with raising this. If need be I'd no problem folding the trip aces or even a 2 pair hand if it really seemed to dictate it.

Flop-
Calling might be better, I'd usually just call here but recently I have really been hating the spots it puts me in on the turn when he bets again. I tried a raise, I actually like it in this spot occasionally, if he bet out on the turn again I'd fold here I think. I would have made note if his limping range included big hands but I had nothing like that so I am pretty sure that 15% includes his big hands from this position, he's not limping AJ+ (Unfortunately I think that includes the hands I really get value from here KK+QQ).

Turn-
I like a check here if I think he will fire at the river (His river aggression was ~1). This also allows me to showdown and not bloat the pot more. In the unlikely case he has a draw though a turn check sucks. If I bet turn and get called I am praying he checks river. This is a rare instance but I'd really hate this spot if I called flop and he fired again on the turn I think I'd have to muck and hate it.

River-
I am looking to get about a 2/3 pot bet in somewhere on the turn or river. If I check the turn I think I could expect a Q to pay me off a reasonable amount of the time. Of course if he does have a draw I let him play his hand well.

Thoughts?


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