QQ from BB vs BTN raise and SB 3bet. best course of action?
 

button raiser is 27/20 over 200 hands and SB 3bettor is 20/12 over 250 hands. how should i proceed from such situation?

do i push over the top? if my push is called, is it fair to assume that i am at best flipping or crushed?

what about flat calling the 3bet? the problem with that option is that if SB is good, he will be able to reduce my hand to a narrow range and i will have zero idea as to where i am vs him. let's say i call the 3bet, then it would be pretty hard to get away from QQ on T72r flop right?

as for folding, i think that's being overly tight b/c QQ should def be ahead of SBrr range vs BTN raise no?

i like pushing over the top in this situation but i would be curious to know if anyone differs.

Re: QQ from BB vs BTN raise and SB 3bet. best course of action?
 

wow i had this 2 times today, but it wasn't as hard as it is here. i'd really like to here some opinions from others on your situation
(my 2 times first):
the first time they both were short @ about 50bb, so i shoved and got called by the SB with AQ
the second time we were all at around 130bb, sb reraised to only 10, i reraised to 30, btn shoved and SB instacalled to make me go "lol, muckaments"

so let's talk about urs... hmm SB seems not like the typical light 3-bettor to me with his 12 PFR, even considered it's "only" a button raise. coldcalling sux obv.. you are IP on the 3better, but there is still mister LAG behind you, who gets good odds to call with SC, small PPs and so on and maybe stack you both on a T72r board with 77.
so 4bet seems like the best action to me, but when the SB 3bet properly to ~14bb being OOP, you basically commit urself with a ~45bb 4bet if you include AK in his pushing range.
so if you have seen SB push AKs preflop before, raise to 45 and call a push, if not, coldcall and pray for a queen high flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: QQ from BB vs BTN raise and SB 3bet. best course of action?
 

i call, if sb was more agro id 4b

Re: QQ from BB vs BTN raise and SB 3bet. best course of action?
 

stick it in or shove over flop bet. pick your poison.

Re: QQ from BB vs BTN raise and SB 3bet. best course of action?
 

so if we call and T72r flops, we felt with QQ here. is that what u are saying? or call 1bet on flop and fold to more heat on turn? i think the subsequent flop decision is a lot tougher than the pf situation. so what would be the best course of action postflop then?(T72r)

Re: QQ from BB vs BTN raise and SB 3bet. best course of action?
 

Yeah, just call, if SB was more laggro then shove or 4bet mini.

If you just call - then call 1 bet on blank flops, play poker, use reads on SB, etc.

Re: QQ from BB vs BTN raise and SB 3bet. best course of action?
 

4 bet. sb may not look laggro, but he knows button is...

Re: QQ from BB vs BTN raise and SB 3bet. best course of action?
 

So say you call and the flop comes T or J high, and the SB cbets into you (and the button who calls). Are you still all for felting this flop, if so what do you put the Sb on that will cbet into 2 players, especially one who shows strength by cold calling a 3bet preflop.

What if the button doesn't call?