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Djeorge 06-27-2007 06:59 AM

Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
Villain was taggy over not many hands and probably had me at about 25/20. Shove the turn now? or give him a chance to fire again or maybe try and squeeze some extra value on the river?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $100.50
BB: $96.30
UTG: $209.30
MP: $90.10
CO: $165.96
Hero (BTN): $179.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $13.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $9.00

Flop: ($27) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $19.00</font>, Hero calls $19.00

Turn: ($65) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks,

good_gamble 06-27-2007 07:12 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
I'm fine with betting or checking turn, prolly lean towards chk if villian is unknown

Nick Royale 06-27-2007 07:23 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
I check the turn. I don't think a bet get payed off by PPs &lt;QQ. He might have re-raised you preflop with KQ/QJs, but against his range (and maybe even against his Qx hands) a turn check to induce a light calldown or bluff is best imo.

dirtylobster 06-27-2007 07:23 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
Would you call a CRAI on the turn? I'd prefer to check behind and call a river bet from 88-AA/AK. If he checks the river I'd make a value bet.

ALReturnsLOL 06-27-2007 07:33 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
I would value bet here, too much left to shove

Djeorge 06-27-2007 07:34 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
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Would you call a CRAI on the turn? I'd prefer to check behind and call a river bet from 88-AA/AK. If he checks the river I'd make a value bet.

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I have a psb left so If I'm betting I'm shoving anyway.

Hattifnatt 06-27-2007 07:37 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
I prefer a check since he was the 3-bettor.

dirtylobster 06-27-2007 07:50 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Would you call a CRAI on the turn? I'd prefer to check behind and call a river bet from 88-AA/AK. If he checks the river I'd make a value bet.

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I have a psb left so If I'm betting I'm shoving anyway.

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Precicely. So if we're not folding isn't it better to let villain take a stab on the river with a weaker hand than to push him off his PP with a turn bet?

blackbort 06-27-2007 07:51 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
check the turn
you get value on the river from hands you beat...keep the pot smaller when you behind and are rarely giving your oppenenent a shot at more than 3 outs

Djeorge 06-27-2007 07:58 AM

Re: Standard spot in 3bet pot
 
Yeah at the time I shoved because I thought that looked like the most bluffy line. When I thought about the hand later that night though I convinced myself that checking was better and that seems to be the concensus here. Villain only has 2/3 outs if behind and I'm pretty sure the extra bets gained from him bluffing or when he makes a light call on the river that he might not have made on the turn more than make up for giving him a free 6-9% equity in the pot.


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