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cunning 06-25-2007 10:50 AM

Do i call?
 
#Game No : 6093678150
***** Hand History for Game 6093678150 *****
$25 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, June 25, 06:56:55 ET 2007
Table Table 126347 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: nixnix77 ( $119.67 USD )
Seat 5: HeiFy ( $18.95 USD )
Seat 6: drekes008 ( $24.95 USD )
Seat 4: cunning_stunt ( $41.52 USD )
Seat 3: feineshelles ( $22 USD )
Seat 2: zorrik ( $25 USD )
feineshelles posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
cunning_stunt posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to cunning_stunt [ 7s 8s ]
HeiFy folds
drekes008 raises [$1 USD]
nixnix77 folds
feineshelles folds
cunning_stunt calls [$0.75 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 2s, Qc ]
cunning_stunt checks
drekes008 bets [$1.75 USD]
cunning_stunt raises [$3.50 USD]
drekes008 calls [$1.75 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
cunning_stunt checks
drekes008 checks
** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]
cunning_stunt checks
drekes008 is all-In [$20.45 USD]

do i call? i know very little about villain but seems tight on the few hands i seen him play. ty for help

relativity_x 06-25-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Do i call?
 
[ QUOTE ]
do i call? i know very little about villain but seems tight on the few hands i seen him play.

[/ QUOTE ]

1) Don't call a raise with suited connectors OOP preflop.
2) If you think he's tight and you have good implied odds against him, you really should be playing these in position.
3) You don't have the best possible flush, and a full house is on the board. The villain probably pushed with the boat knowing you had the flush.

Easy fold.

C4LL4W4Y 06-25-2007 10:57 AM

Re: Do i call?
 
Pretty brutal hand. I don't call this pre with effective stack of 100bb. The check minraise on the flop is pretty strange, and I guess you were going for another one on the turn when you hit. Then you check again on the river and he fires - yes you call because your hand is under-represented. But you have to bet at some point, or else you're losing a lot of value.

tripdeuces 06-25-2007 10:59 AM

Re: Do i call?
 
Hmm wierd spot. I would call i think but im not so confident. It's either a value shove or he is value pushing a weaker hand like KQ.

Its a very marginal spot though considrering you have no read and no idea what his raising range is.

It's not a good idea IMO to check min raise people on the flop when you have no read and there are certain freeze cards that can fall like the one on the turn.

Jouster777 06-25-2007 11:27 AM

Re: Do i call?
 
I was also thinking you underrepresented your hand so you had to call. However, if we look at villains range I don’t see him playing much we beat like this. He has to see the flush and boat possibilities so even if we say he’ll play KQ this way (8 combos) we still have to worry about
AA, JJ, QQ, 22, QJs, AQ (20 combos) and all the higher flushes. Looks like the pot is offering about 3:1 and once we add in the higher flushes, some random Qx's, and properly discount KQ/Qx due to the dangerous board I’d say it’s a fold.


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