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jonkeponke 06-23-2007 01:22 AM

Low Pairs EP late game
 
Three hands I played recently, looking for what other people would do on them:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1195)
MP (t2220)
CO (t1695)
Button (t1540)
SB (t5420)
BB (t1430)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t2555)
BB (t2712)
Hero (t1533)
MP (t2850)
CO (t1455)
Button (t2395)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Final Pot: t150


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t2770)
CO (t760)
Button (t1240)
SB (t1270)
BB (t3390)
UTG (t1890)
UTG+1 (t1185)
Hero (t995)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG Folds, UTG+1 Folds


How does everyone feel about shoving these hands? When I got dealt them, I pushed them all thinking it to be an easy decision, but they're all folds in SNGWiz. Given my stack size in both relative to the blinds, I really think they're all shoves. There's antes in the 2nd hand also, hence the final pot.

So I'm looking for other opinions here -- are these actually folds? Assume none of your opponents are crazy and will gamble with like QTo or whatever random junk.

TruFloridaGator 06-23-2007 01:31 AM

Re: Low Pairs EP late game
 
What buy ins & reads on the players, ranges? You have obviously run them on some sick wide ranges if you found them all to be folds.
1 & 2 are sure fire pushes. 3 may be a fold depending on ranges. Sure you are using SNGW right?

jonkeponke 06-23-2007 02:06 AM

Re: Low Pairs EP late game
 
Possibly not using it right. 32+3 buyin in all of them, assuming all normal ranges. I generally have all of them calling around 11-14% varying on position and chipstack generally, and haven't messed with the default edge at all. What range do you think normally constitutes a standard range, since I've noticed SNGWiz can give a default range of 25% for everyone.

Niggel 06-23-2007 07:38 AM

Re: Low Pairs EP late game
 
I might fold 2) and 3) against crazy opponents ($16 and below) but 1) is even then a push.


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