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JaredL 06-23-2007 01:05 AM

Random observations
 
This thread is to make random observations.

Here's mine.

How is this possible?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ersperflop.jpg

DLKeeper1 06-23-2007 01:08 AM

Re: Random observations
 
someone could have left?

MICADOO 06-23-2007 01:23 AM

Re: Random observations
 
Yes, someone or someone's left.

jukofyork 06-23-2007 07:51 AM

Re: Random observations
 
Yep, I think they use a moving average so there is a certain amount of lag time before the %s update.

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RoundTower 06-23-2007 10:28 AM

Random observations
 
People suck

MicroBob 06-23-2007 02:29 PM

Re: Random observations
 
even if it was just 2 players the whole time:

100 hands.
57 of them = 100% players to the flop
43 of them = 0% players to the flop

RoundTower 06-23-2007 02:33 PM

Re: Random observations
 
that would be 100 hands and 53 flops?

illunious 06-23-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Random observations
 
Some sites count no-flops as 0% in averages, some don't

I think Stars does

Full Tilt does

Edit: yeah, think this is how stars does it, as you can see, players stay at 2/6 (33%) and saw flop is dropping (you'd expect it to be rising if it was converging to 100%)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/gllen/pshuta.png

MicroBob 06-23-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Random observations
 
In this situation obviously it is unlikely that they folded 43 out of 100 hands preflop headsup.

However 4/7 is 57% also.
So most likely they played 7 hands and only 4 saw a flop.
(or 8 out of 14). Still pretty passive-ish but at least it's more realistic.

JaredL 06-23-2007 05:06 PM

Re: Random observations
 
OK a couple things:
1. There is too much nittery and not enough random observations.
2. Just to keep up the nittiness level, the stat is players per flop as listed above. That means that the 43 hands where there was no flop shouldn't be counted. So you have 114 players seeing 57 flops. If there were 2 players dealt into all those hands there would be 2 players per flop and hence a 100% players/flop. Also, I'm pretty sure as illunious says Stars counts it as bob suggests because I recall having seen this stat on a couple of new tables where it went 1->2 in the lobby with no stats and then when it refreshed with stats it came up with something under 100%. It could be the case that there was a third guy for a hand or two and then someone left because they wanted to play heads-up or something like that.


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