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SilentNoise 06-22-2007 02:25 PM

200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $723.25
BB: $247.15
Hero (UTG): $445.15
MP: $228.25
CO: $223.50
BTN: $199.00

Reads: <font color="blue">No reads. Just numbers. Villain is BTN. I have him at 17/12 over about 120 hands.

Obviously i cant fold preflop. No point 4betting. Didn't see the point in checkraising the flop coz im not getting called by worse except maybe the nutflush draw. Thought i could just fold if an A/K comes.

What you think of flop? CRAI better? Is there any point leading this flop? Nowadays when i underrepresent my hand like this I feel i have to call down light and then have no idea where I stand in the hand.

Is it better to lead and assume he only raises/pushes with a hand that beats mem so i can safely fold? Atleast that way im not getting into tricky situations that im probably not good enough to handle?</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $26.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $18.00

Flop: ($55) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $40.00</font>, Hero calls $40.00

Turn: ($135) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets all-in for $133.00</font>, Hero ?????

bruin 06-22-2007 02:28 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
i think i crai the flop, although it could be spew.

TIEdup14 06-22-2007 02:35 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
too much smooth calling

joeblack 06-22-2007 02:38 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
If the villian often 'protects his button' with 3bets then I will 4bet PF with this hand.

As played this is tought. You beat JJ or a bluff, I put you at 40/60.

Fold and pick a better spot.

FGators 06-22-2007 03:12 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
You raised UTG, so from what I've seen people don't play AK/JJ this aggressively on the turn. Looks like you are up against AA/KK almost all the time here. You played it fine, now fold.

Veron 06-22-2007 03:22 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If the villian often 'protects his button' with 3bets then I will 4bet PF with this hand.

As played this is tought. You beat JJ or a bluff, I put you at 40/60.

Fold and pick a better spot.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL, you think he has 40% change of being good and you advice him to fold? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

orange 06-22-2007 03:24 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
QQ, nice flop, i'm all in.

joeblack 06-22-2007 03:27 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
[ QUOTE ]
QQ, nice flop, i'm all in.

[/ QUOTE ]

...and you lose. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

SilentNoise 06-22-2007 03:28 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
orange: even against a nit?

joeblack 06-22-2007 03:30 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If the villian often 'protects his button' with 3bets then I will 4bet PF with this hand.

As played this is tought. You beat JJ or a bluff, I put you at 40/60.

Fold and pick a better spot.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL, you think he has 40% change of being good and you advice him to fold? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes I do. He's losing the majority of the time in this scenario so calling here is baaaaaaaaaadddd. EV-

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